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David I - You are correct, the Great Neck Lodge is only 300ft. east of Lakeville Rd but is just north (right side) of this aerial and out of view.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

Hi Howard,
I don’t know if comments are still excepted as it’s now after your reveal but…
Something has got to be wrong with 1 or both dates here. You’re showing this weeks Foto with the new eastbound Lakeville Rd. exit as being June 10, 1952, 3 1/2 months before the Sept. 27th Sam Berliner III noted 2016 S/E Foto (above) with the old exit & no sign yet of the new. Robert Moses could & did work fast when he wanted to BUT this weeks Foto has to be at the very least 1-2 months after the S/E Foto assuming they started working the day after it was taken.

p.s. if you enlarge the 1966 aerial above, you can still easily see the remnant of the old exit. 

It was particularly dangerous during evening rush hour as cars trying to exit got backed up all the way from the signal at Lakeville Rd onto the right lane (of only 2 eastbound lanes) of the parkway under both bridges (no room for any kind of shoulder with those bridges) on a curve that starts back by the police barracks. In those days, the parkway wasn’t always at a crawl even during rush!  Even still, 50% of eastbound capacity was blocked. It was probably highlighted while the UN had been there but already a continually increasing problem post WWII with suburban migration.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

in 1952 the UN Secretariat was still in 1111 Marcus Av, Lake Sucess and this was their parking lot… https://www.facebook.com/1111marcus/

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

Another great find.  “Just passed the drow”?  Really?  However, I am writing about the horse, perforce; of course, he’s not at all calm but about to bolt.  Nuts; that’s screwy.  Mayhap it’s a mare and they’re about to wash ‘er.  But the steed’s not “of course”; it’s off course, of course.  Go on; hate me!  Sam, III

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: A Vanderbilt Cup Race Scrapbook Discovered in Garden City

From Steven Vilardi:
• Identify the location and orientation of the aerial
o Looking southwest, northern state pkwy, Marcus ave at lake view red exit
• Relate the aerial to Long Island Motor Parkway and the Vanderbilt Cup Races
o Long Island Motor Parkway is a little the north by Vanderbilt house, lake success and great neck high school
• Why are hundreds of automobiles parked in the Mystery Foto?
o They are parked at the sperry defense plant.
• What facility was being built in the aerial?
o It looks like Long Island Jewish hospital is being started on lake ills red
• Identify the golf course.
o What year was the aerial taken? Provide a rationale.
- I would say earlier than 1953

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

Great car and a great guy best of luck from Steve Wepp gnyr

From Tucker 1044 Featured in Newsday's "In The Garage"

this car is a real historical beauty

enjoy it howard
i guess well see it at this summer’s shows hopefully

From Tucker 1044 Featured in Newsday's "In The Garage"

The beginning of the Northern State Parkway at Lake Success looking west. The furthest bridge west overwhelmed by Mother Nature is the abandoned Motor Parkway, which continues diagonally southwest alongside the golf course (North Shore Country Club, formerly Willie K’s Deepdale Golf Club). The first bridge is Lakeville Rd. Ground breaking may have begun for Long Island Jewish hospital (white dirt), also alongside the Motor Parkway opposite the golf course, and the location of the Vanderbilt golfway bridge. Automobiles could be parked at the Sperry Gyroscope Plant (off the photo on left). The NSP exit/entrance at bottom is Lakeville Rd exit 25, later home of the NYS Police barracks. Around 1952 after the NYS Police barracks moved into the patch of trees in the foreground. The 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race used Lakeville Rd for a tire changing station. Look out today for the red light camera on Lakeville Rd/Marcus Ave.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

looks like marcus av Lakeville rd northern state the 1st UN bldg later Fairchild?

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

I have photos of the green Tucker owned by the Stahl Museum taken on the Ford Estate and the blue Tucker housed at the Gilmore. I believe that the blue car was #2 and this color chosen by his wife. (Yes, I also have photos of a red Tucker taken at the AACA Museum and some others they now own.) If you want a physical comparison, send me your email address as I don’t know how to attach them on your site.
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Howard Kroplick

Constance, thanks so much. My email address is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) .

The green Stahls Collection’s Tucker is #1015 . http://tuckerclub.org/tuckers/tucker-1015/

The blue Gilmore Car Museum’s Tucker is #1047. http://tuckerclub.org/tuckers/tucker-1047/

The maroon AACA Museum’s Tucker is #1001.  http://tuckerclub.org/tuckers/tucker-1001/

From The Automobile Quarterly 1976 Calendar Car: The Alco "Black Beast"

Mystery Foto #11…Location is around Lake Success. The aerial shows Fresh Meadows Golf Course. This area was western terminus of the LIMP. Don’t know why hundreds of cars were parked there. Don’t know what facility was being built.The Fresh Meadows Golf course pic was taken on June 10, 1952.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

Probably wondering where I’ve been,very busy lately,doing a lot of things,very active here now. I try to keep up with you on here,I have some spare time now,so I’ll take a crack at this. By the looks of the cars,the aerial was taken in the late 40s. Trying to figure out where this is and it’s very confusing,could be Northern or Southern State,I’m not good at this at all,am I? Probably have seen this area so many times too,it looks all the same to me. As to your Tucker,I’m glad to see that you were interviewed by Newsday,let be known that you have this car,it’s another historical thing for Long Island.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

Hi Dean, Howard did a slide show to a song I wrote. You may use it if you like. Thanks.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/sunday_april_11_2010_a_real_fast_ride-_a_musical_tribute_to_william_k._vand

Hi Dean, Howard did a slide show to a song I wrote. You may use it if you like. Thanks.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

Hi Dean, Great job!!! I wrote a song about the parkway that Howard put a slide show to. You can see it here:

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/sunday_april_11_2010_a_real_fast_ride-_a_musical_tribute_to_william_k._vand

You are welcome to use it in the film if you like. Thanks.

From Screen Test Request: Film "Green Light: The Story Behind the Long Island Motor Parkway"

How delightful to see the   wonderful interest, in this Website, And your Great Photographs!  Obviously many people look forward to your Historical memories! 
Thank you Howard, For A job so very well done.  I am certain that I am not alone in my thoughts here!  Your contributions to Antique Autos, AS WELL as all that goes with the hobby!  is nothing short of fabulous!

From Mystery Snowy Foto #10 Solved: The Great Neck Lodge in Lake Success Circa 1940 Update:3/14/17

Appears, most likely, temporary headquarters of UN at Lake Success, Northern State Pkway, with LIMP above (foto - 3/4 to right and slightly above center)... all, as earlier seen in July 11, 2016 issue of Vanderbilt Cup Races.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

Identify the location and orientation of the aerial:  Lakeville Road, Northern State Parkway - Lake Success/New Hyde Park.  View looking west, south of the parkway.

Relate the aerial to Long Island Motor Parkway and the Vanderbilt Cup Races: Motor Parkway is running parallel to the golf course and going over Marcus Avenue and the Northern State Parkway.  Second bridge with trees on it is the Motor Parkway bridge.  Area included in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race course.

Why are hundreds of automobiles parked in the Mystery Foto?  Parking lot for the Sperry plant located on Lakeville Road.

What facility was being built in the aerial?  Long Island Jewish Hospital (originally planned as a 200 bed facility).

Identify the golf course.  Glen Oaks Golf and Country Club

What year was the aerial taken? Provide a rationale.  1951 - groundbreaking for the hospital was in December, 1950. 

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial

That’s amazing that you got a Tucker. I love that movie.

From Tucker 1044 Featured in Newsday's "In The Garage"

That’s almost Mystery Foto #28, the Sperry Gyroscope plant in Lake Success on 27 Sep 1952!  This is earlier, probably during WWII, wherefore all the cars, looking southwest across Lakeville Road with the recently-closed LIMP just beyond and No. State Parkway up the middle.  It’s well after Easter 1938 because heavy shrubbery is growing on the LIMP bridge over No. State.  The golf course is the Glen Oaks Golf Club (now the North Shore Towers complex).  The George Vanderbilt VCRs had been run just previously.  Hillside Hospital (now LIJ/NS/Zucker-cum-Northwell) is going up across Lakeville Rd.  My, you ask a lot of questions; I thought you knew all this stuff, Howard!  :·)  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Hundreds of Automobiles Seen in This 1952 Lake Success Aerial