Vanderbilt Cup Races

Howard, thank you answering that question, I’ll be looking for Mr. Velocci’s book it should be vey interesting.
Bob

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Joe Oesterle…..OK Part 2. The building that’s just N/O the LIMP ( vicinity of Lodge, Manager’s Office ) and E/O Clinton Rd is the Clubhouse ( Old Westbury Golf Club ). My mind is fixed on the odd looking house just N/E of the Mayan Ruins. And now I’m fixed on going to bed.

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Joe Oesterle…... If your wondering about the building ( steep roof ) that’s just a rock’s throw N/E of the Mayan Ruins, so was I. There’s that 1/2 circle landscape design next to it. Makes me think that helicopters or small planes may have landed there? I look around the site here for other images of this area.
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Howard Kroplick

I believe this is the clubhouse for the Old Westbury Golf Club.

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Al Velocci:
Howard, The timing of your question regarding the the disposition of the Parkway’s Petit Trianon Inn property is impeccable. Yes, I am familiar with those details as they are covered in book I am writing on the Inn which I hope to publish later this year. All will be revealed at that time. Originally, this book was to be a chapter in my work on the Motor Parkway. There came a time when I realized I had more than enough very interesting material on the Inn (and the annex ) that it’s story should be told separately. Will keep you informed about the timing of publication. Thanks, Al.

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In the group picture, I believe the man in striped suit shown in one version of the picture (he’s in background in other version) is David Dunbar Buick. Reason is the man in the same suit is identified by GM as DDB in two other photos taken at Cobe Trophy winner’s circle, with winning driver Louis Chevrolet. I am author of the book “David Buick’s Marvelous Motor Car” and will use several pictures with this ID in a planned 4th revised edition. Let me know if thoughts on this: 248 393-8239 or .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

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The photo was taken facing N/W from over Garden City looking towards Carle Place, Westbury , and Roosevelt air field.

The LIMP structures observe in the photo are The Clinton Ave Bridge, the general manager’s office, the Vanderbilt Cup races track and complex, and the Myain ruins bridge abutments.
Roosevelt air field (Curtiss field)  and hangers, and runways can be seen in the photo. Also you can see the Old Westbury Cub golf course, Meadowbrook Club Polo fields, and the LIRR main line.
I would say the photo was taken in 1936 possibly 1937.  I compared the aerial photo take in 1933 and 1938 to make this determination.  The 1938 photo did have development in Garden City west of Clinton Ave.  The 1933 photo not have any development.  It looks like the cup course was just completed.

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Howard, The timing of your question regarding the the disposition of the Parkway’s Petit Trianon Inn property is impeccable. Yes, I am familiar with those details as they are covered in book I am writing on the Inn which I hope to publish later this year. All will be revealed at that time. Originally, this book was to be a chapter in my work on the Motor Parkway. There came a time when I realized I had more than enough very interesting material on the Inn (and the annex ) that it’s story should be told separately. Will keep you informed about the timing of publication. Thanks, Al.

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Not much time this weekend. 
Looking northeast over Garden City, Roosevelt Field area.
Motor Parkway bridge over Clinton, Garden City toll lodge, Parkway manager’s office.
Roosevelt Field hangers and runways, polo field remains
1940s?

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Helmut,
Can I ask the engine number and chassis number.  I have a 19118/18PS Mercedes and have been trying to find the whereabouts of this car for over 10 years.  I assume it is the ex-Astor town sedan that for some time was in the Imperial Palace Motor Museum? It is a magnificent original car! I think yours and mine are the only two 8/18ps Mercedes still existing?? Would love to hear more about it from you - and would love some photos. Regards, Wayne

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Great story Howard!  And the beat goes on!!

Ann

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Howard:
The side view photo of the Apperson that participated in the 1911 Indy that you displayed was used in the Apperson 1912 catalog with an Indy “Speed Eligibility Certificate” for their Jack Rabbit racer, number 35, and of course the implication was that one would find the same powerful spirit in their street models listed in the catalog. As they wrote, “You will want it because it is a Real Automobile (sic). Ironic that Apperson abandoned factory-sponsored racing after the 1911 pit incident.
Nice collection of photos!
=rdsieber

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-Identify the location and orientation:
Looking East (and slightly North) at Roosevelt Field.

-Identify the structures associated with the Long Island Motor Parkway and the Vanderbilt Cup Races.
Motor Parkway front and center with the Mayan ruins almost dead center. Clinton Rd bridge, Manager’s office and Garden City Lodge in the lower right. Grandstands and course for the 1936/37 Cup Races in the distance.

-What other landmarks can be seen in this aerial?
Meadowbrook Polo Club, St Brigids Church

-What year was this aerial taken? Provide a rationale.
Due to the presence of the VCR racetrack, I’ll guess 1936/37

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Scott Lytle:

Six degrees!  Ha!  That’s great Howard… Thanks so much!

All the best,

Scott

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Jan H.:

Remarkable!

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This story continues to prove your doing exactly what is meant to be, Howard. Your site here has also brought many of us together due to common interest, Thankyou.

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The photo was taken from a position over Garden City looking northeast toward Carle Place and Westbury. Among the structures associated with the LIMP are the Parkway itself, running from left right in the bottom third of the photo, the Clinton Road bridge, general manager’s office, and “Mayan Ruins” bridge abutments. In addition, the future sites of the 1936, 1937, and 1960 Vanderbilt Cup Races can also be seen. Other landmarks include Roosevelt / Curtiss Field (site of Lindbergh’s famous take-off) with their associated hangars along Clinton Road and Old Country Road, and possibly the Meadowbrook Polo Field. I believe the date of the photo is some time between April and July of 1911 since the Garden City Lodge appears to be under construction.

From Mystery Foto #37 Solved: An Amazing Aerial of the Long Island Motor Parkway In Garden City

Facing NE toward Roosevelt Field, with Clinton Rd. bridge at lower right. But the problem with the photo is that it’s a double exposure, with other non-existent “roads” superimposed.

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Great story and photos. One of the best!

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Photographer is airborne over Garden City’s Mott Section, snapping at Roosevelt Air Field at center in East Garden City/Carle Place, looking NE.

LIMP structures along the parkway from left to right:
Old Country Rd highway bridge
Mayan Ruins bridge abutments not visible between Mulberry Av and Transverse Rd
Clinton Rd parkway bridge clearly visible over Clinton Rd
Manager’s house and Garden City Lodge are also visible on Vanderbilt Court

Wow, love all the open spaces north of Old Country Rd. Houses to fill this area coming soon!

Looks like Roosevelt Field hangars are all intact including historic Hangar 16, where Charles Lindbergh’s Spirit of St. Louis was housed for the first cross Atlantic flight to Paris in 1927.

This photo was taken before the demolition of Hangar 16 in 1956 and after Curtiss Field hangars of 1926. Need more time to zero in on year.

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Photo of Mitchell Field (you can see the runway and hangers).
I believe they are the newer hangers so this was taken probably after 1931.
You can see the Motor Parkway in the upper part of the photo as well.

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