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I think we’re looking west-south-west over Carle Place with Glen Cove Road going left to right through the middle. If that’s true, then Old Country Road would be near the upper left corner. The LIMP structures would be the bridges over the LIRR and under Old Country Road. Just a guess for the date but I’m thinking around 1955. No clue for the other questions.

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Couldn’t be easier - that huge roof - General Bronze on Stewart Avenue in Garden City - oops - NOT AT ALL!  Well, then, obviously American Bosch-ARMA on Old Country Road - NAH!  This is probably on the LIRR Main Line and the sidings should be a dead give-away.  Trouble is - they don’t do me! The two middle close-ups aren’t!  Ya got me, Frank!  This one’ll be another “We’ll, duh!”, eh?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

‘Way to go, Dave and Sam!  I so enjoy most of this, except the all-too-vivid memory of all the thorns, prickers, brambles, and such I pushed through - NO!  Almost as vivid as the scratches and pin-pricks which resulted.  I don’t recall seeing those concrete blocky thingies but assumed they are remnants of an entryway.  O, THAT mansion - thanks, Dave; I’m so used to it being a facility that I clean forgot about Bagatelle!  As to the RoW across today’s LIE, Frank F., you of the fab. overlays, HELP!  I always thought the tree lines shown now on my satellite view <http://sbiii.com/limpsuff/lie-xing.jpg>, just SE of my highlights, were the RoW.  Could I prevail on you to take us from Butterfly Park up to Half Hollow Hills Road in your inimitable, precise manner, please?  This is why I always wanted the MP Panel and now the Pres. Soc. to post a full strip map of the entire RoW.  Sam, III

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

Hugh Nutting brought home a Honda sports car from his military service in Japan and let me drive it before he was courting my sister. I would like to hear from him, now.

From From the Hugh Nutting Collection: Insight into the Woodies of Huntington's J.T. Cantrell and Company

Great find, Howard.  “Oversized”?  Bet it had about the same interior dimensions as the Hudson.  Sam, III

From 1947 Tucker Franchise Plan Sales Tool Part II: Luxurious Features of the Tucker '48

View looking southwest in Carle Place.
Old Country Road top left corner, Glen Cove Road diagonal left to right in middle of photo
Old Country Motor Parkway bridge, LIRR Motor Parkway bridge
Consolidated Lithographers, Woodall Industries, Island Building Blocks, structures of the Smith or Hicks farms. 
NYS Digital collection
Oct. 15, 1951

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Nice group of aerials!  Keep up the good work.

Ken

From The Western Terminus of the Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows Circa 1938

I grew up on 199th St. near 53rd Ave; my parents bought a new house there in 1952.  So I know the are well. The big aerial was most probably taken at the end of 1936 or during 1937.
1.  My public school (PS 162) can be seen at the corner of 201st St. and 53rd Ave., with houses across the street. The school opened in 1936, the same year that Bayside High School opened.
2.  Cross Bay Blvd., as indicated in the article, had its name changed to Francis Lewis to avoid a conflict with the new Cross Island Parkway, which opened towards the end of 1938 in preparation for the new Whitestone Bridge, which opened in 1939, and the ‘39-‘40 World’s Fair. The ongoing construction, when considered with the existence of PS 162, implies that the photo was taken at the end of 1936 or during 1937.

From The Western Terminus of the Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows Circa 1938

I enjoy reading of the Tucker’s progress and informative articles and brochures. Thank you for sharing your experience each week. You make it as if I were part of the process. Tucker has always struck me as a vehicle that would have revolutionized the car industry and put it self 40 to 50 years ahead of the competition. Again keep up the good work and God Bless.

Don

From 1947 Tucker Franchise Plan Sales Tool Part II: Luxurious Features of the Tucker '48

Dave, speaking of drainage systems,  about 16 years ago I explored the path of the LIMP east and west of Bagatelle.  At that time I did notice drainage pipes emanating from the sides of the ridges carrying the LIMP, one east of Bagatelle just north of the power lines and one on the east of Bagatelle across from Threepence.  I would imagine the brambles in the area may make them hard to see.  There is a photo of one of them on what is left of Sam Berliner’s old LIMP website.

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

The picture is over Carle Place, looking southwest.  The LIRR is seen crossing over what is today Glen Cove Rd.  Voice Rd heads west.  Old Country Rd is seen in the upper left.  The LIMP Mineola bridge crosses the LIRR in the upper middle.  To the left the parkway will dip down and go under Old Country Rd.  I do not know the names of the buildings.  The building on the right, I believe, is still there.  The small warehouse spur of train tracks, for many years, wound through the area.  Up by the LIRR itself, a small portion of those tracks are still there.  It took a few moments to get my bearings on this.  But great picture.

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

I need to revise my answer and include the Old Country Rd Bridge as a LIMP structure as it was still standing until the 1960’s.

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

The three photos of the lights/lanterns and memorabilia are great!

From Never Before Published Photos of the Long Island Automotive Museum

LOL, Dave. Any Drone experts here? A rocket pack would come in real handy, too. When you say it was brutal, that can be taken to the bank. The property just north of Madonna Heights is “Holmes Farm” ( there’s a cell tower within this property, too. ) Maybe there’s access to the ROW via the Farm? Have to check this out when the “seasons right”. The concrete sections being the remains of a culvert would be neat.

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

Identify the location and orientation of the Mystery Foto
-Looking West over Westbury/Carle Place

Identify the major roads
-In the center left to right is Glen Cove Road, the soon-to-be roadway between the two large buildings will eventually be Voice Road

Which Motor Parkway structures can be seen in the Mystery Foto?
-Mineola Rail Road bridge is the only structure since it looks like the Old Country Rd bridge was gone by the time of this picture.

Identify the major buildings
-View southwest of the Consolidated Lithograph Company. The building sits next to another identified as Woodall Industries

This image can be found in which online digital collection?
-NYS archives

What was the date of the Mystery Foto?
-October 15 1951

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Brian: Good luck going to assess! From the mansion till the end was brutal. Look at the pic of Sammy. As funny as it is with his face saying it all (he wanted to kill me), look all around him. That was not easy to walk through. Every step was taken with caution and typically involved holding back thorns. Not fun at all!

Regarding the concrete pieces….I agree with you. I believe there were 4. We are either on the LIMP here or right next to it. The only thing that I thought was perhaps this was a drainage system of some kind? Similar to what was recently discussed with the Levittown locations? Maybe this was a water run-off area? It is sort of sloped here and if the LIMP is to the left of this picture that might make sense.

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

Regarding the mansion—“BAGATELLE” - if you click on the red link Howard provides next to the picture above you will learn some interesting info. Here is what is on Wikimapia:

Rumored to have been owned by WK Vanderbilt as a hide-away for his mistress c. 1910. French Manor on 225 acres. Later owned by Dr. Herman Baruch. Now part of the Madonna Heights Crisis Residence for Young Women.
http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=qswyy58wkd5r&lvl=19.274348596...
From NYTimes archives - “In October 1949, Dr. Herman Baruch, the former Ambassador to Portugal (1945) and the Netherlands (1947) and former director of the Texas Gulf Sulphur Company, was married to Anne Maria Baroness MacKay at Bagatelle, Dr. Baruch’s country summer home on Burr’s Lane in Wyandanch. The bride was the daughter of Dirk Rynhard Johan Baron MacKay of The Hague, the Netherlands. After Dr. Baruch died at home in Wyandanch on March 16, 1953, the Bagatelle estate with its many signature azalea, mountain laurel and rhododendron plantings and its numerous specimen trees, was sold to the Catholic Sisters of the Good Shepherd, which developed it into the Madonna Heights School complex. The Bagatelle Nursery Farm in Dix Hills, was sold and sub-divided into expensive large lot upscale homes about the time the Long Island Expressway reached Half Hollow Hills in the late 1960s. Baroness MacKay Baruch frequently attended church in the Our Lady of Miraculous Medal Church (driven in a chauffered limo) during the summer months when the Baruchs vacationed in Wyandanch.”

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

As an answer to Brian McCarthy’s question which reads “Did ALL the original automobiles have the steering column on the right side?”
Some yes, some no… In the very early days of the automobile the steering wheel was located in the center in most instances. Some manufactures did place the steering wheel on the right so that drivers would not hit curbs, bushes, or other obstacles.

From Mystery Foto #17 Solved: North Hempstead Town Supervisor Edwin C. Willets Driving a 1904 Buckmobile

Very cool, Jeff Levin.

Just was thinking…Did ALL the original automobiles have the steering column on the right side? Something else to research, lol.

From Mystery Foto #17 Solved: North Hempstead Town Supervisor Edwin C. Willets Driving a 1904 Buckmobile

Dave and Sam, thanks for the hike pics.  Glad you guys are out there to put boots on the ground and engage the enemy (old wild growth).  If I did not live so far away, I would join you.  My heart started to race when I saw the pic of the back side of the Chestnut Hill Elementary School area.  The pipes or rods or whatever were just the kind of debris that was in the old foundation where the Huntington Lodge was at one time before it was moved to where I lived. Do you think that could have been part of the railing on the parkway to keep people from entering the raceway?

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills