Vanderbilt Cup Races

Stewart Field Complex and VCPkwy:  I know the ball fields w/o Raymond Ct. Was the huge parking lot e/o Raymond Ct recently demolished and developed as additional ball fields? It then definitely makes sense to link the fields utilizing the LIMP along with the dead end area of Raymond Ct.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com News Links (Updated: 6/29/2018)

Identify the Mystery Foto’s location and the orientation of the photographer.:  Garden City, parallel to Stewart Avenue. View is looking northwest towards Clinton Road.

Identify the Motor Parkway structures in the photo:  Lodge and General Manager’s Office.  Bridge over Clinton Road appears to be obscured.

Which library was the original source of the photo?  Garden City

Which online digital collection is the source for this photo and over 50 images of the Motor Parkway and Vanderbilt Cup Races?  New York Heritage Digital Collection.  Fantastic resource!!!

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Motor Parkway East of Clinton Road, Garden City in the 1950s

Excellent work with the maps as usual, Frank. The ROW is smack between Duchess/Essex Courts & Dix Woods Dr. Too bad there’s no remnants.

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

Garden City.  Looking Toward Clinton Rd.  Garden City Lodge, then further back the manager’s house/office.

From Mystery Foto #19 Solved: The Motor Parkway East of Clinton Road, Garden City in the 1950s

Howard Kroplick

Frank Femenias added 1947 and 2007 overlays

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

Sam III - Sending zooms of the RoW in Wheatley Heights

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IX:To the Finish Line at Half Hollows Hills

After viewing these tickets, nothing was left to confusion. A tight ship was run here! The 5th condition on the last ticket SEEMS like it’s stating that there was “no charge”...fee? traveling between Huntington and Lake Ronkonkoma? But the Brentwood ticket was .50 ct, as long as you didn’t travel west of Commack Rd.

From Vanderbilia: The Long Island Motor Parkway Toll Ticket

Roy Warner or anyone here who grew up in this area are the best estimators of this maps date. Something caught my eye that didn’t “look right”. There’s streets carved out in the area bounded:  North by 73rd Ave, South by the LIMP, West by 210th St, and East by Bell Blvd ( If the map covered a bit more east, you’d be able to see Bell Blvd. ) At some time before 1951, The Windsor Park Apartments were built on this same squared area. The former street patterns don’t line up with the existing roads within this apartment complex. Change of plans, I guess. Also sort of wondering why they didn’t just follow the original LIMP route when constructing the bridge over the future Francis Lewis Blvd? I don’t see any reason why they built the bridge north of the actual ROW?

From The Western Terminus of the Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows Circa 1938

Howard, the kiosk at western terminus must’ve been manned, at least in 1930, as they were giving drivers admission tickets from the Nassau Blvd lodge.
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Howard Kroplick

You may be right. However, automobiles could easily bypass the Nassau Boulevard entrance by going on the dirt road entrance at 73rd Avenue.

From Vanderbilia: The Long Island Motor Parkway Toll Ticket

LOOKING AT YOUR SITE I SAW NUMBER 2 LEN ZENGEL MY GRANDFATHER ANY MORE PIC’S?

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Harry Grant Preparing the Alco for the 1911 Elgin National Trophy Race

Fantastic find Al! Hoping to see this aerial in person someday.

The zoomed photo of the Motor Parkway terminus shows a lot. Considering the parking stalls at the entrance, the flagpole on the center line, and the erected gate blocking motor vehicles from entering indicates the aerial date to be just before, or sometime after the bike path’s opening on July 9, 1938 at 11 AM. I need more time to get a closer date.

Thanks Al and Howard for sharing this new gem. 

From The Western Terminus of the Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows Circa 1938

Rats!  Can’t find my old coverage of the Voice Road area so I substituted:

  <http://sbiii.com/limpcns1.html#2ndvoice>.

Sam, III

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Al, You’re amazing!

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Love these old pics. They are especially great when you intimately know the location. Having grown up around here I know all about this zone. I’m shocked at that really nice farm house and land on the east side of Glen Cove Road. Amazing. All I’ve ever known there are stores and huge parking lots. Definitely no remnants here to be found! I’m sure of that.

Al, Interesting about Voice Road. Thanks for the info. I wonder how you knew that!

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

The large building is located on the west side of Glen Cove Rd. between the LIRR and Voice Rd. in Carle Place, the view is to the south west.  Today the building, heavily modified, is the home of a number of retail merchants. It was built in 1950 on the Charles Wick farm for the Consolidated Lithograph Co. coming from Brooklyn. At the ground breaking ceremonies the first shovel of dirt was turned by Mrs. A. J. Voice, the widow of the founder of Consolidated. You have always wondered how Voice Rd. got it’s name, right? The Motor Parkway can be seen in the distance crossing over the LIRR, barely noticeable in the upper left,  the Parkway can be seen going under Old Country Rd.

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Howard,  wow, what a find!  Thanks for sharing it with your friends.
Rog

From 1947 Tucker Franchise Plan Sales Tool Part II: Luxurious Features of the Tucker '48

The photo is taken over Carle place looking towards the Southwest and Mineola and Garden City.
The major roads are Glen Cove Rd, Old Country Rd, and Voice Rd.  Also observed is the LIRR mainline.
The LIMP can be seen in the background with the Mineola LIRR railroad bridge and the LIMP Old Country Rd Highway bridge.
You can observe the new warehouses on the new Voice Rd.
I would date the photo sometime around 1955.

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Identify the location and orientation of the Mystery Foto
- Carl Place looking about southwest.

Identify the major roads
- Glen Cove Rd is the prominent road running left to right across the center of the image. Parallel on the left is Old Country Road, and perpendicular at the top is our beloved LIMP.

Which Motor Parkway structures can be seen in the Mystery Foto?
- Overpasses on the LIRR and OCR, though the latter I can’t really make out.
 
- While I can’t ID the buildings nor collection nor dates I do note that there are echos of the rail sidings still evident in overhead shots, some of the property lines and building shapes were formed around these rails. I faintly remember reading of that business just south of the LIRR but remember none of the details nor where I read that.

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Looks like a Fairchild aerial, October 15, 1951 looking northeast over Carle Place, with Glen Cove running diagonally across the bottom under the LIRR.
The Macy’s Furniture Outlet is at center.

From Mystery Foto#18 Solved:A 1951 View of the LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge from the New York State Archives

Al Velocci has discovered a presentation that supports one of the Regional Plan Association’s transit improvements offered as a contribution the NYC’s master plan in mid June 1938. The plan called for Cross Island Blvd to run to the intersection of the Stewart (Central RR) right-of-way, where it could connect to North Hempstead Tpke, as Al’s discovery shows. By extending CIB to the Stewart right-of-way, someone at RPA may have still thinking about a “Stewart Parkway,” an idea that had been floated by Queens civic leaders for about a decade.

Robert Moses rejected the RPA’s suggestions by memorably saying that there was “no talent” at the RPA, among other things. One week later, Moses was much nicer addressing the first-day bicyclists! Ironically, Moses later become instrumental in extending Francis Lewis Blvd further south.

(Also shown is a segment of Underhill Avenue that was built much later but then later demapped for private use by St. Francis Prep.)

From The Western Terminus of the Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows Circa 1938