Vanderbilt Cup Races

Would see Bud Harrelson at the Duck games when the stadium was named Citibank Field. Now realize the stadium has been under 5 names since 1999. Sure most of you know that Bud Harrelson passed away this January RIP.

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway (April - May, 1924) and a RIP

Well, the one driver looks like a younger Carroll Shelby, so therefore the race car should reflect who CS was driving for back then.  Maybe his winning Aston Martin DBR1 from the 24 Hours of LeMans in 1959?  Or, more probably, the SCCA USAC Road Racing Sports Car Championship car CS won with in 1960, a Maserati Type 61 “Birdcage”.  The other guy looks familiar and may be a talented driver from Phoenix AZ who rose to prominence in that era.

From Mystery Friday Foto #16; Solved; Jim Rathmann & Carroll Shelby at the 1960 Vanderbilt Cup Races

Thanks for the RIP for Jerry Grote.  Completely agree

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway (April - May, 1924) and a RIP

Art, that “Best Routes” map is from the Sunday, June 7, 1914 edition of The New York Times.

Rumors of a(n electric) railroad in the LIMP ROW first appear circa 1915. A Brooklyn Daily Eagle article from April 6, 1915, even notes that “laborers are already employed, it is understood, straightening and preparing the Motor Parkway east of Garden City for railroad construction.” Some sources described the route as a trolley line that would have started at the Corona terminus of what was later extended to become the IRT Flushing line.

All these stories can be seen as feints in the ongoing competition between the New York Central (associated with the Vanderbilts, of course) and the Pennsylvania Railroad.  Media manipulation is not a new phenomenon!

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway (April - May, 1924) and a RIP

I attended the 50th Vanderbilt 1908 celebration as invited by Leo Peter’s who brought his 1905 Reo for us to ride in.  George Robertson , winner was there.

From Long Island History Journal: A review of the books "Vanderbilt Cup Races of Long Island and "The Long Island Motor Parkway"

The two race car drivers are Carroll Shelby and Jim Rathmann with Rathmann sitting in “Old 16”, the Locomobile that won the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race. Both drivers are publicizing the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup race so the the photo was probably taken at or near the entrance to the Roosevelt Raceway (harness) track in Westbury. Rathmann had just won the 1960 Indy 500 a month earlier while Shelby had won the 1959 LeMans Gran Prix. I think the modern (for 1960) race car could be a Lancia Dagrada.

From Mystery Friday Foto #16; Solved; Jim Rathmann & Carroll Shelby at the 1960 Vanderbilt Cup Races

Rollin’s granddaughter Betty King had this medal. She said she gave it to the National Inventors Hall of Fame Museum after Rollin was inducted, but they know nothing of it.
Where is this medal? Several White steam car historians and biographers want to know.

From Mystery Foto #33 Solved: Windsor White's gold medal from the 1902 500-mile Reliability Contest from NYC to Boston and return for the White Steamer

Really think the couple up on Jericho Tpke are the same couple that officially toured the LIMP 1958 - 1967. Could also be Fred’s parents. Maybe his parents did the tours? Believe this couple is still unknown.

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

Joseph Oesterle - likely a heightened concrete barrier added later to prevent pedestrians from falling over?

Fred Rieder -  an enhanced close-up of you and the bike, and a Sept 18, 1950 aerial of the lodge, pre Cromwell Rd. Courtesy Cradle of Aviation Archives

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

Brian McCarthy - Quite possible the same couple exploring/documenting the LIMP have reached the Jericho Tpke bridge in Mineola. If so there’s a third person photographing. 
I’ve seen multiple kiosks and toll lodges at the Mineola site, courtesy VanderbiltCupRaces.com.

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

What’s up everyone!
I miss the Motor Parkway.
Here’s some pics of this location looking at it from the other side, the north side of Jericho Tpk

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

My mother Edna Levey was the school secretary for 37 years. She also was a student in Troy,N.Y. when she was a student

From Was the "Bagatelle" Mansion in Half Hollow Hills Built by a Vanderbilt?

My mother Edna Levey was the school secretary for 37 years and she was a student of the same at Troy,N.Y.

From Was the "Bagatelle" Mansion in Half Hollow Hills Built by a Vanderbilt?

Those are two different kiosks. The six-sided kiosk is not identified with a location, Also, I believe the directional view description of the 1909 dated photo is wrong. I’m assuming that the roadway in front of the kiosk is Jericho Turnpike therefore the view is to the southeast’

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

Joseph. I agree that the kiosk looks like a 4 sided structure in the 1909 picture.

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

Not Old Swamp Rd, Round Swamp Rd lol : )

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

I see what you’re seeing, Joseph. The view of the kiosk from Jericho is 2 sides meeting each other, the roof too. Then the view from the field side is 3 sides, roof too. Both in the 1909 and 1910 images. Odd construction, but I think it’s the same building. Recall a blog here about Old Country Rd was being widened while the LIMP was in operation. Like they extended each side of the Highway bridge then constructing those thick walls on each side. Looks like the same construction was done with the Highway bridge at Jericho. You’re right about the barriers, some exist still - East of New Hyde Park Rd, West of Roslyn Rd, East of Old Swamp Rd.

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

“East view of Toll Gate”, from photographer. Photo is actually east view of Toll Gate, looking west.

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

Fred Rieder - How neat you recognize you and your bike in the mystery foto. Not sure, but I think the Gentleman & Lady up on Jericho Tpke, left of the bridge, is the couple that toured the LIMP ( there’s a few blogs here of their explorations.

The screenshots show this location in 1926, 1950 and Today. Been known that the Toll Lodge was moved 100 ft south, due to the widening of Jericho Tpke. 1926 shows the original. 1950 shows it’s re location at todays Rudolf Rd. The overhang was included with the relocation. used as a carport likely. Also, before Rudolf Rd was developed, the home had a long driveway towards Jericho.

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955

Just a couple of observations.

First.  The depth of the bridge in 1910 is obviously quite narrower than the 1950 ariel view.  Do we know then the bridge may have been modified?  The southside western retaining wall from 1910 seems to match the 1960 photo to perfection.  It makes me believe the modification was extending the tunnel under on the north side. 

Second.  Is it me?  Or does out Toll Gate in the 1910 picture seem off.  The East view makes the building appear to be a six-sided structure.  Whereas the West view makes the building appear to have 4 sides.  Is this just an optical illusion in the photos?  Are there other pictures?  The wood fence from both angles appears to be the same fence. 

Third, there appears there could be a barrier across the parkway in the 1950 overhead photo.  Just south of the bridge.  I am not sure what else it might be.  Of course, as a kid, I remember finding stone walls build across the right of way a couple of times.  And that seems like a logical solution. 

-joe

From Mystery Friday Foto #15 Solved; Fred Rieder at the Jericho Turnpike Highway Bridge in 1954/1955