Vanderbilt Cup Races

Remember there was a serious soap box derby, I think in Akron Ohio that ran down a long avenue, that went on for a number years. Still around?

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Another Long Island Race Inspired by the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I’m still on it

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved: Bulls Head Hotel in Greenvale (North Roslyn) Circa 1934-1936

Busted again. The police officer’s uniform helps with the era but not as close as the identification of the cars. Love these old photos that show how it once was.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved: Bulls Head Hotel in Greenvale (North Roslyn) Circa 1934-1936

Bull Run Inn.  After it was moved.  The Gas station was there for many many years.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved: Bulls Head Hotel in Greenvale (North Roslyn) Circa 1934-1936

#20 (Fresh Meadows GC) became the site of Fresh Meadows after the War, which is where I grew up (on the other side of Horace Harding Blvd). #18 (former reformatory school) became the site of Queens College in 1937, from which I graduated (when there was no tuition). #19 (Pomonock GC) became Pomonock apartment complex. #23 became Alley Pond Park and surrounding garden apts and houses, with a right of way taken for the the Cross Island Parkway. #33 became the Aqueduct Race Track. #s 12 (the Ash dump) and 16, 17 became the site of the 39-40 and 64-65 World Fairs, which after 65 became Flushing Meadows Park, #3 became portions of the Grand Central Pkwy right of way and a part of what became LaGuardia, #30 (Forest Park) was used for the right of way for the Interboro Pkwy (now Jackie Robinson Pkwy), #13 - the southerly portion became LeFrak City (1959-60), #10, 11 became postwar housing in Fresh Meadows, north of Horace Harding, the site for Francis Lewis HS (from which I graduated), Kissena Golf Course (public) and Kissena Park [I could go on but I’m getting dizzy going back and forth between the map and these comments]

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Identify the automobiles: the three parked at the gas station from the left : Ford model A, either a Pontiac or Plymouth from 1931, and another Ford model a.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved: Bulls Head Hotel in Greenvale (North Roslyn) Circa 1934-1936

Charming patina?  I saw a lot of rust that needs to be dealt with before it gets out of control.  Should this vehicle end up in Roslyn (best of luck Howard) I would vote for a restoration.

From Market Watch: Steve McQueen's Bullitt Mustang

Howard beautiful job on this draft.
7.5 is what she will fetch.
What a piece of history… on many points ... for Ford on the Mustang & Steve McQueen for showing the world how things are done.
Best
Nelson

From Market Watch: Steve McQueen's Bullitt Mustang

OK, the sign is a dead giveaway that it’s in “North Roslyn.”  Do I get a partial prize for that bit of information???? 😊

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved: Bulls Head Hotel in Greenvale (North Roslyn) Circa 1934-1936

-Identify the location and the orientation of the photographer.
Looking East at the corner of Northern Boulevard and Glen Cove Road in Greenvale. According to the Roslyn Landmark Society, the officer in the photo was Harry LaRue.

-Which Vanderbilt Cup Races utilized this location?
1905

-Identify the building in the Foto.
Aloyous Huwer’s Bulls Head Hotel

-What changes were made at this location from the time of the Vanderbilt Cup Races to when the Mystery Foto was taken?
Bulls Head hotel was moved and turned from the corner to make way for the gas station.

-What was the approximate year of the Mystery Foto?
1934

-Kudos question: Identify the automobiles
Unsure- maybe a ‘32 Ford in front. I’ll try and have a follow-up answer.

From Mystery Foto #49 Solved: Bulls Head Hotel in Greenvale (North Roslyn) Circa 1934-1936

Al, here’s a link to the LIMP interactive map showing the old Queens’ streets in light blue. The old street names are revealed by clicking on the road. 

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1396j0_672hYkvbcNFJInbc1mXNJspD9f&ll=40.742491469161216,-73.75760775553289&z=14

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Art - the old/new street name reference confirms some research that I did since my last post: Queens Road did not become Bell Blvd., but, rather, Hollis Court Blvd. This street now has several disconnected pieces due to construction of the Clearview Expressway.

This website, the source of my research, is a fascinating journey back in time through all five boroughs:

https://forgotten-ny.com/

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Liking your last map, Art - Meadowbrook Extension. Very obvious that today’s Merchants Concourse follows the past 2 roadways that used the twin bridges over the LIMP ( cloverleaf ). Is this map larger than is seen here? If so, it would be neat to view it.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

I remember going downhill in a gokart/contraption with my older brother lol. Wasn’t made as well as these though. $10 prize at that time had to be music to their ears! Check out that starting ramp they built in the video, couldn’t make it any steeper than that!

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Another Long Island Race Inspired by the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

If RHR became Springfield Blvd., then Queens Road must have become something else, possibly Bell Blvd. I can’t find any evidence that a “Queens Road” existed in that part of the borough. Today, Bell Blvd. almost meets Hillside, but not quite.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Here’s a resource I’ve used to map (no pun intended) old to new street names.  I can’t vouch for its accuracy but a start. 
https://stevemorse.org/census/changes/QueensChanges0.htm

Here’s what it says for Rocky Hill Road:
ROCKY HILL ROAD 47th AVE BAYSIDE
ROCKY HILL ROAD 48th AVE BAYSIDE
ROCKY HILL ROAD BRADDOCK AVE QUEENS VILLAGE
ROCKY HILL ROAD WINCHESTER BLVD QUEENS VILLAGE

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Al, Art - Amazing map how only Hillside Ave retained its name. Rocky Hill Road alone took on several names as it snaked through Flushing including; Flushing Ave (Braddock Ave), Springfield Blvd, 56th Ave, Luke Pl,  216th St, 48th Ave, and 47th Ave. Only a tiny portion of the Rocky Hill Rd name (1000ft) remains today in Auburndale, Queens. Let’s just call it RHR!  :D

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Neat, Sam. 1931 Broadway, today’s Lincoln Center!

From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Marion Spooner Photographed at the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Here’s a picture of Elsie in her real automobile stopping to talk with a horseman.  The picture was from an article in “The Automobile” titled “Woman as Drivers of Automobiles” dated April 19, 1906.  Generally very positive and encouraged women to participate in this new pastime.

From Elsie Janis and The Broadway Show "The Vanderbilt Cup"

The enhanced photo helped a bit. As always, great stuff! Thank you gentlemen for keeping the historic roadway alive!

From Mystery Foto #48 Solved: Marion Spooner Photographed at the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race