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I’d say that’s easily an olympic sized pool next to the gym. If I was a local resident I’d push to have it back in swimming shape.

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Art Kleiner, and those interested in the pools. Here is a 1940 aerial with the pools circled and 2 modern google maps of the pools today. also on my website and from my forthcoming books. Lee Chambers can better tell the history of the pools post-MAFB (1961) . Thanks.

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Great photos, Paul.  Looks like I’ll be taking a few more trips to Mitchel Field soon as I live within a few miles of it.  And if the weather is right I’ll take my bathing suit for those pools - lol. 

No problem using whatever I’ve posted in your book.  Here’s a link to where I found the material.  The Mitchel Field postcard info. goes from about page 87-92 and includes more of the estimates for each work order.  E-mail me at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) if you would like. 
https://archive.org/details/CTPFE_213/page/87/mode/1up?q=mitchel+field

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Art Kleiner, Here is a short excerpt from my forthcoming books. “Beneath the Shadow of Wings” 

“1937 New OC pool

During the spring of 1936 a new swimming pool was constructed by the CCC and WPA behind the officers club between Miller Avenue and East Road.  Base Commander, Col. Walter H. Frank held a formal opening party on the evening of June 17 with much fanfare. Master of ceremonies LtCl. Thomas F. Hanley introduced speeches by Col. Frank, Base Quartermaster Maj. John N. Douglas and construction quartermaster Capt. Ralph G. Richards.

Officers, families and guests were treated to a spectacular aquatic presentation and exhibition by expert swimmers and divers from nearby Jones Beach. West Point Cadet and swim team member Cadet Crandall, son of the Fields Base Surgeon Maj Walter M. Crandall had the honors of making the first official “resident” splash into the deep end of the pool.”

An excerpt from:
Beneath The Shadow of Wings
Untold Stories from Mitchel Field, Long Island
The Gathering Storm
1938-1941
A full length, profusely illustrated book

By Paul R. Martin III
Copyright 2020 by Paul R. Martin III
COMING SOON!
No excerpts or photos can be used without the express written permission of the author, Paul R. Martin III

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Art Kleiner. There are more pictures of the pools as they appear today on my website. https://mitchelfield.weebly.com/walk-around-2020.html  I Like the picture I took here of the old ladder posts at the edge of the pool (grass). It makes me a little sad.

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Art Kleiner, those Curt Teich POs are awesome. I may ask you if I can use a few in my book. I have been collecting Postcards for a long time too and never saw those. There is a full page on my website dedicated to the MF PCs in my collection but I am sure I am missing some. https://mitchelfield.weebly.com/postcards.html I only know of 2 pools on the base, the OC pool (above) and the Enlisted men’s pool by the Gym. The OC pool was grassed over, and the EC pool still stands but hasn’t been filled in years.

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Can anyone locate where the three swimming pools at Mitchel Field were?  And are they still somewhere to be found today or what might have they become?  From Aviation magazine, Jan. 1942.

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And last but not least . . .

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A few more.

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Great commentary by all!  Thanks for sharing your memories.  I was a neighbor in the mid-70s having spent my college years at Hofstra. As a commuting student my car was parked on the runways. 

I’m a fan of postcards and came across the work orders for the series of postcards shown in this blog.  The postcards were produced by Curt Teich & Company, Inc. in 1942, one of the largest post card producers in the world.  Each work order listed the subject and where the copy should go and also contained the work schedule.

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Great stories Lee. It must have been very cool to live there. I will PM you.

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I attended NCC at the same time as Paul did.  In fact, we both worked at the college station, WHPC at the same time!

NCC and the Navy always had a good relationship.  One point of contention however were students parking in front of Military homes along Ellington Ave. West, preventing locals from parking anywhere near their homes.  My father had the row of Temporary Buildings closest to Stewart Avenue torn down around 1966 to create a very sizeable parking area for the remaining buildings on the North Campus including the Firehouse Art Gallery which had at one time been an actual firehouse used to put out dwelling fires on the Base.  Thereafter, the parking situation improved overnight, much to the delight of the Military families in the area.

Riding our bikes past the demolition of the Temporary Buildings one Summer night, we found the street sign for 1st Street and Avenue E laying on the ground and took it home as a souvenir.  It remained in our basement for many years.  Today, is still sitting in perfect condition in my garage, 3,000 miles away in LA!   

Regarding the student protests, I was there too, but not as a student.  I witnessed firsthand the demonstrations in 1971 following the invasion of Laos and Cambodia.  Unlike other schools that had dormitories, when it got dark, the protestors would leave and go home for the night.  Then they’d be back the next day.

Some of them defaced the Parade Grounds reviewing stand which had been repainted to say ‘Nassau Community College’.  Graffiti changed the middle word to ‘Communist’.  A lesser known fact was the existence of what could be described as professional protestors, who did not reside in the area and traveled around the country to rile up anti-war sentiments.  Some were wanted by the FBI. 

When tensions hit their peak, with Administration Buildings at campuses around the Country being occupied by protestors, my father had an emergency HELP button installed in the President’s office under his desk that he could use to instantly contact the NC Police should his office ever be taken over by protestors.  Thankfully, that never happened. 

Similarly, another HELP button was installed in the President’s Residence at 363 Rice Circle for the same reason.  As children, we were taught where the button was and what it was for.  Coming home from school, we were also told not to walk in plain view from our school bus stop at the corner of Rice Circle to the front of our house where protestors on the Quad could easily intercept us and were told to use the Back Alley entrance to our house instead.  Fortunately, that too never occurred. 

In a comical conclusion, the button in our house remained operational well past the demonstrations in the early ‘70’s.  Periodically, there were false alarms resulting in NC Police responding.  For some reason it happened most frequently after heavy snowfalls.  Then one day in 1974 in the middle of Summer while our parents were away from home, several squad cars suddenly came racing up our driveway.  The hilarity reached a crescendo when the NC Police helicopter landed on the Quadrangle with officers storming our house wanting to know what the emergency was.  Of course, there was none and it was just another false alarm.  After that episode, the button was removed.  Upon my last visit to the house several years ago, the holes where the button had been hidden under one of the kitchen cabinets were still there!

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I have an original photo of the #5 Oldsmobile 1910 car that supposed to be raced in the 1910 Vanderbilt race. Would you be interested.
Rick Jessup,  Strasburg, Pa.

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Wayne, I was there a little later than that so missed all that stuff at the college. But your building IDs sound right, they were the same when I was there. Gym in Hangar 5-6 classes in the “Halls” and art studio in the barracks, lunch in the mess hall and theater in the Chapels. During my walking tours, (I’ll be giving more in the Spring) I always say the best thing that happened to preserve MF was having it taken over by NCC. The exteriors and much of the interiors have been preserved. Re-purposed, but preserved nonetheless. Many people complain about the loss of the barracks north of the tracks but they were just T buildings anyway (T for Temporary). A few of the NCO duplex houses were taken down for condos but most of those and the officers houses on the south side of the tracks still remain as military housing. All in all about 70-80 % of the buildings remain, including 5 of the original 1930 hangars as part of the COAM and other museums. Thanks

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Loved it thanks,I love the history of long Island..

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Looking at your map and my aging memory I would say that 104 Hdqtrs was the Engineering Building and 103 Hdqtrs was I think the Bursur’s building. That’s were some of the anti-war protests took place, in front of 103 and onto the “Quad”. I could tell you a story about the flag pole at that time but perhaps I better not. 105 looks like North Hall and 101 South Hall. We had most classes that were non-Engineering in those halls. Except an Art class in the 103 barracks area and a Human Biology class in a room connected to one of the hangers. Oh, of course, Gym in one of the hangers. Thanks for the memories.

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Paul, I was at NCC from 1968-1971. I could tell you stories about the anti-war campus protests and other associated stuff. We in the Engineering area tended to stay away from that stuff but it wasn’t easy. There were even plans to “defend” the Engineering Building in the event of a student “takeover”. Wild times.

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Rich, when Donnelly told me about your new endeavor, I was happy for you. You deserve it my friend. Count me in as a subscriber. Miss our days at Hemmings. GM

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Wayne, you are very welcome.  So glad you like my website. BTW, I attended NCC in the mid 70s and many of the pics I took at that time are in various places on the website. I know there’s alot to look at on my site, but this page has my 2020 walk around with current pics of all the remaining buildings. Thanks so much. https://mitchelfield.weebly.com/walk-around-2020.html

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Interesting Art!
Horatio L. Babb was still listed as working for the LIMP in the 1922 Grand Catalogue of Phi Kappa Psi. He was a graduate of the Case School (a predecessor to CWRU) circa 1905, according to fraternity records.
Perhaps another engineer like Hardin? Given his long tenure at LIMP, wonder if his name shows up somewhere in LIMP archival business documents.

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