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Art, the farmway bridge list,  the bridge at sta. 898 is listed with an 18’ width. The1910 Parkway map shows it is much wider than the standard 8’ width farmway bridge planned at sta. 910. It is labeled “typical” so I don’t think the 18’ designation is a typo.  My guess ?  The Parkway planned to bridge the “dip o death” crossing at Burr’s Lane in short order.

From Kleiner's Korner: William Geiger's Motor Parkway Property in Wyandanch

I saw the turbine car at the 64’-‘65 world’s fair. It ran in a pit that looked like a tobogan run. It “whoooosed” by. I’m 72 y/o now. My question is: Where are all the flying cars that we thought were coming?

From Stahls Automotive Museum acquires a 1963 Chrysler Turbine car

By the way, it was scrapped because of some heavy tax penalty would be impose if was not scrapped as I remembered.

From Stahls Automotive Museum acquires a 1963 Chrysler Turbine car

Thanks Art for the articles, went through my ‘ARCHIVE’ have the 7th annual International Auto Show Apr.13-21 1963 program, no listing of the Chrysler Turbine car was displayed or advertised in the program. now the Manhattan Chrysler dealership was on Broadway a couple blocks south of the NY Coliseum about the time I saw the car. Hey it’s 58 years ago! In the program a long articles by Elwood P. Engel who was with Chrysler around the time the Turbine car was being developed, and other later models had his Continental touch.

From Stahls Automotive Museum acquires a 1963 Chrysler Turbine car

Thanks for the 1928 map!  I have a photo (somewhere) of the Colonial Springs Road bridge before it was demolished.  In the woods on the north side (years ago) you could still see the fill that was used to raise the incline toward the bridge abutments (next to and behind the VFW hall).  I live off Bagatelle and near the Town line in Wheatley Heights and have walked most of the LIMP in the area.  Where the LIMP runs on the west side of Conklin/Bagatelle north of the Huntington line, one homeowner took the LIMP ROW as their own and put up fences cutting it off.  Likely, illegally.  Where the LIMP crosses to the east side of Bagatelle, I assume, there was never a bridge constructed.  Is that one of the “farmway” bridges you refer to that was never built?  I’m a bit unclear as Bagatelle (Conklin) was not a farm road.  Thanks for all your good work on this.

From Kleiner's Korner: William Geiger's Motor Parkway Property in Wyandanch

Just noticed you mentioned that Conklin would be to the right of the LIMP, Art. So the bridges would’ve been just south of the intersection of Conklin & LIMP. Below is the 1928 Motor Parkway Atlas showing mostly the Town of Babylon side.

From Kleiner's Korner: William Geiger's Motor Parkway Property in Wyandanch

Know this a year old+ post, but I was wondering if pages 10 and 11 of the mapbook exist? I’ve been looking within the site here to locate them. Great purchase!

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: The 1910 Motor Parkway Survey Bookmap

Driver - Maurice Fabry
Mechanician - Placenza
Car - Itala
Date - Practice Run for the 1906 VCR or Elimination Race - September, 1906

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: Driver Walter Christie and mechanician Lewis Strang practicing in a 1906 Christie on Guinea Woods Road

Nice story about a nice car even though it was scrapped!
Two relevant articles from The New York Times of 1962 and 1966.

From Stahls Automotive Museum acquires a 1963 Chrysler Turbine car

Thanks Brian, yes quite hard to explore - see my pages for my travels there. 
https://limparkway.webs.com/wyandanch.htm
https://limparkway.webs.com/bagatelleroadeast.htm

Bill - I see what you mean, but this 1915 map shows Geiger’s property extending south of the town borders.  Perhaps the farmway bridge was intended to be in Huntington and the golf course in Babylon.  Thanks for the note.

From Kleiner's Korner: William Geiger's Motor Parkway Property in Wyandanch

First time I’ve seen the Chrysler Turbine on display at Manhattan Chrysler dealership in NYC in 1963, was roped off, no up and close. Seen again at another time later can’t remember where and when? Not sure if Elwood P Engel new head of Chrysler Design had any involvement in the design, it does have the Thunderbird design influence?
Remember 50 of the cars were given to general public in there own home location for a two weeks? trial as part of the evaluation.

From Stahls Automotive Museum acquires a 1963 Chrysler Turbine car

What is it used for now?

From The fate of Willie K's Deepdale mansion in Lake Success

All maps indicate the property in question was not in Wyandanch at all, but north of the Huntington/Babylon Town line.  Hence, in Melville, Huntington, if I’m not mistaken. Can you verify?

From Kleiner's Korner: William Geiger's Motor Parkway Property in Wyandanch

Even though this area is literally impossible to explore in the warmer months, it interests me the most due to portions of the parkway existing. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m thinking the farmway bridges were going to be over the parkway south of Conklin/Bagatelle Rd? Guessing Conklin was a narrow dirt road then, and maybe the bridges would’ve spanned over Conklin too. Maybe not, Conklin may have acted as a connecting farm road rather than a strictly north & south thruway.

I’ll have to put myself in that time period and go Scheme B. Whole lot more of dirt and work is required for the slope in Scheme A. Present day explorers would prefer Scheme A, maybe leaving us evidence of the past bridges.

From Kleiner's Korner: William Geiger's Motor Parkway Property in Wyandanch

Driver, Mechanician & Auto:  Walter Christie,Lewis Strang in the Christiemobile.

Date & Location: going by an alike photo within this website, I’ll say their on Guinea Woods Rd, photographer facing northeast in 1906.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: Driver Walter Christie and mechanician Lewis Strang practicing in a 1906 Christie on Guinea Woods Road

Ariejan, Thanks for the additional information. Always welcome your input.

From Greg O's Garage: Removable rims and their impact on early motoring and racing

...and I just found a bunch more Sloane refs on the blog - thank you!

John B.

From Newsday LI Life: High Society -Where the elite on Long Island learned to fly

Great lost airfields of Long Island - Nassau County - here,
http://airfields-freeman.com/ny/airfields_ny_longis_nassau.htm

The chronicler of Early Americana/renowned artist Eric Sloane (1905-85) was also heavily involved in aviation, painting murals, writing books for war effort, lettering aircraft for famous flyers of the day at Roosevelt Field.  He also painted the enormous mural in the National Air & Space Museum on the National Mall.

Thanks, Howard for the great blog!

Cheers,
John

From Newsday LI Life: High Society -Where the elite on Long Island learned to fly

The 1913 Mercer racing rim unlocking system

From Greg O's Garage: Removable rims and their impact on early motoring and racing

This is a really interesting post on a subject not often mentioned. Detachable rims were of course common in the US (often an identification feature to determine if a car is American or European), and many types were developed in the US. In Europe detachable rims were only one of the systems to facilitate tire replacement. Michelin was one of the European firms who designed detachable rim systems, which were commonly applied in the years before the Great War.
During the Vanderbilt Cup races of 1909 and 1910 the majority of the participants used Michelin tires in combination with the by Michelin specially designed quickly detachable racing rims. Also the Alco used these, as the contemporanean photos of the Alco racer show. However they probably have been replaced at some moment in the past. These racing rims appear to have been lost almost completely, but one surviving racer is still equipped with them: the 1913 Mercer belonging to the Simeone Foundation.
I added an article in The Automobile of January 7, 1909 with a short description of these racing rims, a few photo’s of the original rim and a photo of the unlocking system on the Simeone Mercer. Of course it would be interesting to research if it would be possible to provide the Alco with this system again!

From Greg O's Garage: Removable rims and their impact on early motoring and racing