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Thanks Greg and Al. From what I’ve gathered, for one instance, Otto to call him Tommy the cop, it slowly appears the whole Motor Pkwy community was a tight knit family including Eric Ericson 20 miles away. Upon the Pkwy’s closing in 1938, Willie K transferred the lodge’s ownership to the gate keepers at an attractive price. The community seemed to care for each other during operation and for the Parkway cause.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

Frank, Regarding your post mentioning the bridge in the background….  if the accident happened just east of the Meadowbrook Lodge,  the bridge in the distance could be the one at Old Westbury Rd.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

Frank-
Unfortunately no. Bill sent that along with his family lodge photos last year. I too have been trying to discern the location myself for a while as well, but have come up empty handed. It appears Otto McCamish was very involved with many aspects of the LIMP aside from managing the lodge, from snow plowing, to bridge construction and possibly more. It could be anywhere, but my gut says this is somewhere in the vicinity of the MeadowBrook lodge.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

Brian - Thank you for sharing Sam III’s LIMP photo at Wheeler Rd; I agree, he would’ve shared it just the same. Also excellent observation on the Meadow Brook location! I sped too quickly through the photo assuming it was Zinzi’s home in Massapequa.

Greg - Are there any captions on Bill Cruickshank’s accident photo with Zinzi’s motorcycle? I enhanced the photo below in an attempt to home in on location. That car rolled over at least once due to its extensive damage, and likely caused by excessive speed. Looks like a bridge in the background but I’m unable to locate the photo.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

Nope not Ransom Olds

From Henry Austin Clark Jr.'s Long Island Automotive Museum automobiles at the July 4, 1960 Southampton Parade

Walt-
The engineer in question sounds like it could have been Ransom Olds, but he never lived in NY, had his mansion in Michigan, and died in 1950, so I don’t think it was him!

From Henry Austin Clark Jr.'s Long Island Automotive Museum automobiles at the July 4, 1960 Southampton Parade

Brian
I do not have a photo of the gentleman, he was an engineer, had two makes of cars with his name on them ( but not at the same time) after he left being chief engineer at a separate automobile manufacturer.
Walt

From Henry Austin Clark Jr.'s Long Island Automotive Museum automobiles at the July 4, 1960 Southampton Parade

I like the auto that’s heading to Herb McCarthy’s ( there’s McCarthy’s everywhere ???? ). Walt - The identity of the gentleman who was significant with the automotive industry would make a neat mystery foto!

From Henry Austin Clark Jr.'s Long Island Automotive Museum automobiles at the July 4, 1960 Southampton Parade

So that is Otto’s wife. Below is a couple of photos of Thomas Zinzi from the site here, courtesy of Arthur Mauriello. On his motorcycle at Massapequa Lodge, the other is he at Eagles Nest as a security guard for Mr. Vanderbilt. I really didn’t realize that is Thomas in the mystery. Great Foto, Greg!

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

Part 2 - in my opinion, the passenger doesn’t resemble Mrs. McCamish. Perhaps she’s Mrs. Ericson.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

I’m late to this one, so here’s my guesses-  This really appears to be at the Meadowbrook Lodge, photographer facing west. Going by another photo, he doesn’t resemble Thomas Zinzi. He may be Eric Ericson, he and Thomas were police for the LIMP. I would assume that Eric would patrol Suffolk, Thomas in Nassau. Sure they crossed borders and helped each other out. Maybe the woman is Mrs McCamish and Otto took the photo.Just made out the make, Harley Davidson.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

Brian,  It was fairly common to use cinders and ashes from coal burning furnaces to temporarily improve road conditions, mostly in rural areas, from the teens to the late 1930’s….Regarding stop signs, that came about in 1913. They were first placed in the center of the Parkway ROW on both sides of Commack Rd., Wheeler Rd, and Rosevale Ave. Signs were also placed on the Parkway 300 feet back from these roadways informing Parkway motorists of the stop signs. Over the next several years other public roadways received the same treatment.  In 1926 the stop signs came down as the first blinker lights were installed by the Parkway at these three crossings. Powered by gas, they blinked red for the Parkway motorists and green for the motorists on the public highways. At the same time I believe the blinker lights were at placed at two other crossings.

From Kleiner's Korner: The Dangerous Intersection of Wheeler Road and the Motor Parkway

Additional photos:

From Henry Austin Clark Jr.'s Long Island Automotive Museum automobiles at the July 4, 1960 Southampton Parade

Photo A - 1915 White Calliope Truck in foreground, then 1920 Autocar 2 cyl. Rubberneck Bus, then 1911 American LaFrance Hose Truck, in back 1911 Pope-Hartford Chemical & Hose Wagon [the hood appears to be lettered “1776 ACRES / FIRE DEPT]
Photo B - 1920 Autocar 2 cyl. Rubberneck Bus with the Eastern Suffolk Chapter of the Sweet Adelines
Photo C - (l to r) 1911 American LaFrance Hose truck, 1920 Autocar, 1915 White Calliope
Photo D - HAC on the 1911 Pope-Hartford Chemical & Hose Wagon
Photo E - 1926 Ford Model T Acrobatic Car
Photo G - Curved Dash Olds

From Henry Austin Clark Jr.'s Long Island Automotive Museum automobiles at the July 4, 1960 Southampton Parade

I remembered Sam III has the image below of the LIMP near Wheeler Rd in Central Islip on this page   sbiii.com/limphst4.html   He would’ve like to share this with us.

From Kleiner's Korner: The Dangerous Intersection of Wheeler Road and the Motor Parkway

Mystery Foto #27…Photo high I taken at Massapequa Lodge Toll House. Driver and passenger are Officer Thomas Zinzi and wife Josephine Zinzi. Josephine was gate keeper at the lodge. The motorcycle was a 1926 Harley Davidson police special.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Tommy Zinzi policing the Motor Parkway in front of the Meadow Brook Lodge

Beginning to appreciate what you have with the H & M Challenger.

From Restoration Update #1: The 1962 Holman-Moody Challenger III

The original Falcons came only with an inline six.  Later versions had the V-8 option.  Rog

From Restoration Update #1: The 1962 Holman-Moody Challenger III

The first truck painted white looks like it’s a White.  Don’t know the year though.
The last photo looks like a curved dash replica.
How did I do coach?
It’s good to see old photos of Austin Clark.  I miss him and his museum.
Rog

From Henry Austin Clark Jr.'s Long Island Automotive Museum automobiles at the July 4, 1960 Southampton Parade

Very interesting to see the remnants of the ‘62 Ford Falcon in the modified/custom design (and try to figure out what was retained and how much of the car is newly designed and fabricated).  Is the grillwork from the original Falcon???  Did the 289 Ford V8 come with the original Falcon or is it an “add-on” to the modified version of the car?  Why were the special (large capacity) gas tanks included in the modified/custom design???

From Restoration Update #1: The 1962 Holman-Moody Challenger III