Vanderbilt Cup Races

Digging out for LIMP to cross under Stewart Ave, east side of Eisenhower Park.  Looking back west.  Sort of looks different there now.

From Mystery Foto #51 Solved :The Motor Parkway under construction in 1908 at Stewart Avenue in East Meadow

This is a picture of the Stewart avenue bridge under construction in East Meadow.  The photographer is facing west.  Workers were digging by hand below the grade area to allow the Motor Parkway to run under the soon to be constructed Stewart avenue bridge.  The utility poles on the right and the curvature of the roadway are consistent with this location.  As documented on 8/13/13 and updated on 2/18/16 by the Vanderbilt Cup races this location covered both the 1908 and 1909 races showing crowds and artistic representations.

From Mystery Foto #51 Solved :The Motor Parkway under construction in 1908 at Stewart Avenue in East Meadow

Great rare shot!

Couldn’t quickly find it to confirm, but this should be looking west out over what will be Eisenhower Park from present day Salisbury Park Drive.

Ladenburg property on the right during the foreground construction of the Stewart Ave LIMP bridge for the 08, 09, & 10 Cup races. “Meadowbrook” bridge hasn’t been started yet in the background yet.

The bridge, and later 1938 aerials;

From Mystery Foto #51 Solved :The Motor Parkway under construction in 1908 at Stewart Avenue in East Meadow

Art, Great research effort, you brought order and clarity to the many bits and pieces of how the entertainment industry viewed and interacted with Vanderbilt, the Races and the Motor Parkway. Looking forward to Part 2.

From Kleiner's Korner: How The Entertainment Business Brought The Motor Parkway and the Vanderbilt Cup Races to the Public (Part 1)

Thank you for the nice words, Brian.  Going the extra mile, just what Willie K. would want in his 90 hp Mercedes.

From Kleiner's Korner: How The Entertainment Business Brought The Motor Parkway and the Vanderbilt Cup Races to the Public (Part 1)

You really ( and always ) go the extra mile ( and more ) with researching, Art. I know, labor of love for you, but thanks!

From Kleiner's Korner: How The Entertainment Business Brought The Motor Parkway and the Vanderbilt Cup Races to the Public (Part 1)

Frank, Your photo of the 1906 Corbin automobile at Krug’s Hotel. They wouldn’t got that far if it wasn’t for the sheriff.  The vehicle lacks at least the front Ct. license plate.

From Mystery Foto #50 Maybe Solved: Two Thomas racers being prepared for the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Failed to answer the Mystery. First glance, the photo with #12 exiting the garage area likely to be Krugs Corner’s back-yard garages. Photos below. #12 may have experienced a radiator replacement, prompting an immediate redux of the # “12”

From Mystery Foto #50 Maybe Solved: Two Thomas racers being prepared for the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

The motor has the same triangular plates on the side as the 1906 Thomas racer.

From Mystery Foto #50 Maybe Solved: Two Thomas racers being prepared for the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Mark, the Edward Russell (E.R.) Thomas in the photo was not the Edwin Ross (E.R.) Thomas who founded the E.R. Thomas Motor Company of Buffalo.
https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_2can_you_identify_these_two_men_at_the_1906_vanderbilt.

Edward Thomas was a prominent New York broker who owned the 1904 Mercedes #8 which raced in the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race:
https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/drivers/bio/edward_hawley

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: 12 Previously unpublished photos of the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Wow! When I finished college my first real job was with an insurance company as a claims representative on Frolic Farm Blvd.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 4 - Vanderbilt Cup Race Illustrations of "The NY World" - "DANGER"

Assuming both cars were from the same manufacturer and were being prepped for the same race, it could only be 1906 Itala or 1908 Thomas racers. Since the additional photo looks like it might be the garage area of Krug’s Hotel, Mineola on the corner of Jericho Turnpike and Willis Avenue, I’m going with Thomas racers since Krug’s was their headquarters for the 1908 V.C.R. and probable site of the photo. The #12 car was driven by George Salzman.

From Mystery Foto #50 Maybe Solved: Two Thomas racers being prepared for the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I’m guessing that the “dip of death” was at or near Whitney Pond (and the stream that flows out of it towards Manhasset Bay) and the intersection of Northern Boulevard and what’s now Community Drive, and that the hill is Spinney Hill.

There was a terrible accident a number of decades ago on Spinney Hill, when a car full of prom-attending high school seniors was headed eastbound down Spinney Hill too fast, and couldn’t manage the curve.  I’m told that the tragedy led to the parents at Manhasset High School holding the prom (called “The Frolic”) for graduating classes at the high school itself.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 4 - Vanderbilt Cup Race Illustrations of "The NY World" - "DANGER"

Here’s the link:

https://www.illustration-magazine.com/

From Illustration Magazine: The work of Peter Helck. (112 pages)

Just click on the red lettered NEW ILLUSTRATION #74 in Howard’s article. Will take you to magazine site.

From Illustration Magazine: The work of Peter Helck. (112 pages)

How do I oredere the 112 page book on the works of Peter Helk ?

From Illustration Magazine: The work of Peter Helck. (112 pages)

Never heard of this magazine, looks wonderful. What a great way to see some of Helck’s work and read about him. Will order, probably subscribe.

From Illustration Magazine: The work of Peter Helck. (112 pages)

This image is of a corner of Levittown when I grew up and still live.

Levitt built up to the south side of Orchid in Phase 1 with Cape Cod houses. Orchid Rd only went down to Carnation Rd where it curved to meet. Orchid was extended west in Phase 2 which left a bit of a kink in the road. The homes on the north side of Orchid are all ranch style

The houses on the west side of Carnation went down on the LIMP ROW. Somewhere I read a post from someone who grew up there who said the bank of the LIMP curve was in his back yard. I note the “park” but it is just a piece of land without even a bench to sit. I don’t know why this was left undeveloped like that. No pavement is visible there today.

When I was young we used to walk the abandoned ROW to get to the sump. Roadway was plainly visible until the houses were built on it.

The Pintail School (now torn down but for the parking lot and building slab and surrounding fence) was built on the ROW. I always found it curious the ROW curved a bit south before Pintail Lane and the fence around the property curved to match the border. The fence is still there and to this day you can see this. Just an obscure fact I don’t want to die with me.

From Update: Mystery Foto #49 Solved: A 1947 Aerial of Levittown and William J. Levitt

That’s amazing Manhasset history Howard, much thanks

From Video of the week: The Strathmore Vanderbilt Country Club in Manhasset

William Chester’s 1906 Manhasset property was +-2,400 acres in size!

From Video of the week: The Strathmore Vanderbilt Country Club in Manhasset