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I would like to join you guys on your adventures. I am Chris Battestin from Massapequa,  member of the Preservation Society,  .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address).

From Updated: Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IV: Old Bethpage

Thanks guys.

From Updated: Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" IV: Old Bethpage

Dave Russo….I was delighted that the 1926 maps are clearer than the 1950 ones. Your seeing the parkway in it’s magnificence! Here’s another neat trick…locate the Robbins La Pkwy Bridge ( Between Roslyn Rd and Wheatley Hills Golf Course ) on the 1926 or any of the other maps, then click on the location. The current property info will display. It matches perfectly with Frank Femenias"s submitted aerials.

Also want to point out that Mr. Berliner has had these maps for years, and the maps are on his website. I just came across the Nassau County site because of extensive internet searching.

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

This is a history lesson I’ve been looking forward to reading for many years. The James Melton/Robert Kauffman Renault lived here in Ridgefield Ct. until Melton found it in 1943. I have two photos of the car here in town back in the 1920’s with the odd plank fenders, and large headlights. I’ve always wondered who had it before James Melton bought it. Bob
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Howard Kroplick

Bob, if you wish to share the photos, please send Jpegs to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). Thanks!

From Updated: Article "The Vanderbilt Renaults" by Marvin McFalls

....And the Roslyn Lodge

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

Whoops! Forgot Robbins Farmway bridge after Roslyn Rd

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

We’re looking at East Williston. North is up. You see the LIMP enter at the bottom where it jumps over Hillside Avenue before entering the Wheatly Hills Golf Club, then curving left (west) near the top of the image. There is a bridge for golfers there! Glen Cove Road is to the right (east).

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

Nice find producing another fantastic aerial! 1926 East Williston with north up. A rare view of still intact Motor Pkwy bridges that have ALL been taken down and gone forever. From left to right are; Willis Ave bridge, Oyster Bay LIRR bridge, Roslyn Rd bridge, after the curve southward the Wheatley Hills Golf bridge, and the Hillside Ave bridge. Motor Pkwy was built four years before the golf course and club members could access the clubhouse from the parkway. Howard, sending an overlay.

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

This is a view of the MP directly over Williston Park, Roslyn, Albertson and East Williston - starting from Willis Avenue on the left thru the Wheatley Hills golf course.  You can also make out the Roslyn toll lodge.

MP crosses over Willis, LIRR, Roslyn Rd, Hillside Ave.

I believe you can also make out the home of Willis on the bottom left by the lake.  I’m not sure when the home was demolished.

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

Upon first glance from west to east that looks like LIMP going over Willis Ave, then over Roslyn Road, proceeding into what is now Wheatley Hills golf course, making the sharp turn south to avoid the rich/powerful people of Old Westbury, just like the Northern State was forced to do and crossing over Hillside.

Brian thanks for map tip. Very cool. Strange thing….I tinkered around w it for a few mins and it appears the 1926 aerials are more clear/concise then the 50’s. you would think it would be the opposite.

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

We’re looking at an aerial view over East Williston with north at the top of the photo. The LIMP enters at the left, heads east and then curves south with bridges over Willis Avenue, LIRR Oyster Bay Branch, Roslyn Road and Hillside Avenue. Also in view is the “golfway” bridge in the middle of Wheatley Hills Golf Course and the Roslyn Lodge just west of Roslyn Road. The other major road is Glen Cove Road running north - south near the right side of the photo.

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

The location of the mystery photo is a section of the LIMP from Willis Ave to Hillside Ave. This would include the hamlets and villages of Albertson, Williston Park, East Williston, and Old Westbury.
Major roads - Willis Ave, Roslyn Rd, Guinea Woods Rd (Glen Cove Rd), New York State Route 25B ( Hillside Ave, East Williston Ave),  and the future ROW for New York State Route 908G (Northern State Parkway).

LIMP bridges - Willis Ave, LIRR Oyster bay Branch, Roslyn Rd, Robbins Lane, Wheatley Hills, and Hillside Ave.
Building - Roslyn Lodge

Golf Course - Wheatley Hill golf club.

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

also on the top of the photo looks like mitchell field or roosevelt air field.???

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

i think i see the roosevelt race track but i may be mistaken as there were many tracks for horse racing back then.  that is about all i can say

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

That’s ALL we see of the Auburn?  C’mon, Howard!  Sam, III
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Howard Kroplick

See above photo courtey of Nancy Corn

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Anyone can look it up so I’ll go it alone.  That’s the area of the Wheatley Hills GC in Williston Park/Albertson/wherever, directly over Roslyn Road just north of the Jericho Pike (like that?), with Willis Avenue at far left, then the LIRR’s Oyster Bay Branch, then Roslyn Road, the LIMP Row curving down from the near top, and finally Guinea Woods Road at far right.  I. U. Willets Road is at the very top and Hillside-cum-East Williston Avenue at the bottom.  The road crossings are obvious, as is the Roslyn Lodge, and the Wheatley Hills GC bridge shows clearly near the lower right.  Whew!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

East Williston, showing the LIMP curving through the Wheatley Hills Golf Course?
Glen Cove Road on vertical right.
Hillside Avenue across bottom, and LIMP bridge over Hillside visible lower right.

From Mystery Foto: #42 Solved: A 1926 Aerial of the Motor Parkway & A Guide to Finding 1926/1950 Aerials

Hugh Nutting:
The 32 Ford has 106” wheelbase. 1933 on into the 1940s are 112”.  Hugh

From Updated: Article "The Vanderbilt Renaults" by Marvin McFalls

The article notes that (in reference to the first Vanderbilt Cup Race) “the event was held in the family’s land on long island” that seems to be an assumption on the part of the author. Hope his statement doesn’t become fact for readers who do not know the story of the Vanderbilt Cup races , which of course they have been reading here for many years. Not trying to nit pick, but misinformation and myth often become fact if left unattended.

From Updated: Article "The Vanderbilt Renaults" by Marvin McFalls

Wonderful story about these cars.  I was lucky to see Mr Gibson’s car at his home a few years ago.  Minor correction, Renault didn’t win the 1903 Paris Madrid race, as it was cancelled after the first of three legs had been completed.  Gabriel on a Mors was in first place at the time the race was stopped. Marcel Renault crashed and died.  Louis Renault was in the lead pack, not sure where he was classified.

From Updated: Article "The Vanderbilt Renaults" by Marvin McFalls