Vanderbilt Cup Races

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From Kleiner's Korner: Peter Helck's Postcard Collection

I like the pic of Sam enjoying his ice cream after fun exploring!

From Sammy & Dave’s “Excellent 2019 Vanderbilt Day”- #13 Melville

Sam; Google Street View is sufficient to get an idea of what is currently there. My further rationale for saying that tree no longer stands is when Stewart was widened, it looks like they widened towards the West side of the street (Tree side)  and not the East side since the East side bridge embankment is still there.

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

I would like to think that the person who took the later photo, #1948, purposely placed his car about where the the auto was parked in the 1908 shot. Note the drainage culvert on the right side is visible as it is in the construction photo dated Aug. 20 ‘08

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Al P. - Isolated up here near Beantown, I have to rely on Google Maps Street View, or the like, and I can’t find ANY old-growth trees there.  Even IF such a tree somehow survived the widening of Jerusalem Road/Stewart Avenue, it would be absolutely gigantic compared to the “only”-70-some-odd year old trees evident there now.  Someone please go look for me.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Gotta add that I am simply stunned (and thrilled) with the level of detail this ca. 1908 Mystery Foto thread has evinced.  Thanks, all!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

I’m fixated on the big tree, wondering whether it still stands. It looks like it was north of the CRR and south of the LIMP. Could it be the tree on private property at the NW corner of Stewart Avenue and Albergo Court? It’s the only tree with a thick enough trunk to be that old. There are actually two trees, close together, on the property.
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Howard Kroplick
Al, join the club…that tree has always fascinated me!

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Again, more amazing shots of the Barnes’ tract just revealed. Great stuff.

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Great photos and zooms Howard. I never get enough of ‘em!

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Thanks Brian, I also did some additional research to no avail. Still can’t figure out what was so unique about this crossing that warranted an overpass

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

-Identify the location of the Mystery Foto and orientation of the photographer. Provide a rationale.

Looking South down Jerusalem Road (Stewart Avenue) in Bethpage and the future location for the Jerusalem Road bridge. My photo below shows the same exact tree in both photos.

-What significant event happened at this location?

On June 6, 1908, this site was the gathering point for the ground-breaking ceremony for the Motor Parkway.

-Kudos question: Identify one person in the Mystery Foto.

I’d imagine Willie K, or A.R. Pardington would/might be there, but despite poor zoom resolution, I’m thinking it looks like Jefferson De Mont Thompson on the right.

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Mystery Foto #11B…We are on Jerusalem Road looking south. A Motor Parkway bridge will be built here over Jerusalem Road. As per my researched photo, one of the people shown here is Mr. Pardington along with some engineers involved in the construction of the Motor Parkway. See attached photo below

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Rare, high resolution photograph of old Long Island as it truly looked in 1908! Stewart Ave (Jersusalem Road) in Bethpage looking south towards now defunct Central RR crossing. LIMP General Manager A.R. Pardington with engineers standing on the 16.5 acre Barnes Tract,  directly on the Motor Parkway Right-of-Way where the Ground Breaking Ceremony will later take place on June 6, 1908. The car is parked under, where the Jerusalem Road Parkway bridge (1908-1950s) will be built over it.

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Surely, you jest!  This one I gotta see!  Beautiful pastoral scene, though.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

There’s a giant 1912 Renault 40CV Victoria Phaeton and a somewhat-smaller 1924 Renault K5 Torpedo up here at the Lars Anderson but I’m off to Newport, only an hour away, as soon as the virus subsides, Audrain reopens, and the VCR car is on display.  Sam, III

From President of Renault Owners of America: The Recent Sale of a Vanderbilt Renault at Amelia Island

please send this to as many people as possible
newsday anyone to get history on track

From Update: Garden City Board of Trustees Met and Agreed Not to Destroy the Long Island Motor Parkway Pavement & Concrete

Based on the shadows near the car, could we be looking south? Since there’s a train crossing sign, the road is probably going north-south. This might be Jerusalem Road (today’s Stewart Avenue) in Central Park (Bethpage). This could be the site of the groundbreaking ceremony for the LIMP construction. Maybe the group of people were trying to select the actual site for the officials stand. If any of this is true, then A. R. Pardington is probably there.

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Al - I searched a bit, but haven’t found yet why a bridge was built for Ellison Ave instead of a short tunnel due to the elevation. Below states a pedestrian overpass was first built in 1896. Bob Emery’s drawing shows bridge construction in 1907 ( a year prior to the 1908 VCR ), and again in 1947. Then we know the recent bridge work completed in 2016.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: The Winner of the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Roslyn

1. Stewart Ave looking south in bethpage at the LIMP intersection. We’re looking at the future site of the stewart ave(jerusalem)  bridge
2. Groundbreaking took place in the area on the right where the gentlemen are standing
3. Pardington and/or Willie K?

From Mystery Foto #11B Solved: The Garden City Archives: Scouting the Ground-Breaking Ceremony Location

Ah, a repeat from mystery photo #17 Apr 26th 2016.

-Identify the location in the Mystery Foto and orientation of the photographer.

Krug’s Corner at the intersection of Willis Avenue and Jericho Turnpike in Mineola. The photographer was looking east straight down Jericho Turnpike.

-Which building in the Mystery Foto is still standing?

136 Jericho Turnpike, the building on the southeast corner of the intersection-now Atlantic Travel.
From mystery photo 17;  ‘Al Velocci believes the building was moved east with the expansion of Willis Avenue. The buidling on the southeast corner was taken down in the early 1970s.’

-Associate the Mystery Foto with the Vanderbilt Cup Races.

There are many photos of this location especially from the 1906 races. With some of my favorites being from the Pickering Collection, that coincidentally, seemed to be a topic of conversation today!

-What was the likely purpose of the tour?

According to the Garden City Archives, these cars were on their way to take a tour of the proposed course for the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race, including sections of the Long Island Motor Parkway under construction.

-What was the likely month and date of the Mystery Foto?

This was taken during the summer of 1908 during the construction of the LIMP.

-Kudos question: Identify one or more automobiles in the Mystery Foto.

I’ll go for the easy one and say the second one in from the right can clearly be ID’d as an REO (Model C) on the radiator.

From Mystery Foto #11A Solved: From the Garden City Archives- A Tour in 1908