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The picture, looking east was taken at the curve on South Street in garden City. The building on the right is still the Akbar catering facility. Judging by the cars most likely taken around 2004.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
The mention of “criminals” use of the LIMP. During Prohibition in the 1920s-early 1930s the LIMP was used by bootleggers as it was a private road and the police would have to enter it and know they were on private property to make an arrest. It wasn’t used to frequently I believe but I do know that it was indeed used , as my grandfather had a bootlegger who supplied him with scotch ( Black & White brand with the scottie and westie dogs on the label) and he recalled one evening his bootlegger showing up with the fellows brand new 1932 Chrysler Imperial 4 door sedan that was all scratched up on the sides - when the fellow was picking up his liquid haul on the south shore the police showed up and a quick escape had to be made through a hedge row! The fellow then made his way to the LIMP and got off at either Lakeville Rd. or Little Neck Pky area to head here to Floral Park.
There was a very well known car collector here on long island who was an electronics whiz and used to make equipment for bootleggers to fit to their boats known as “rum runners”. This was used to learn of the whereabouts of the police who were in their area to avoid them. But that is a story for another time and has nothing to do with the LIMP. WG
From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway and the Bellmore Bank Robbery
31 May 2020 Links to the Memorial Day parade ride all go to Palmetto story.
Thought I might find the parade here.
Maybe next week?
Thanks
Vic
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Howard Kroplick
Here is your link, enjoy the ride:
https://vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/video_take_a_ride_in_the_alco_black_beast_for_the_2020_nassau_county_memorial_day_parade
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Art Kleiner:
Causing me too much angst. But here goes - I’m assuming the smokestack is the Covanta plant off of Stewart Avenue. So I’m thinking the photographer is looking south from Old Country Road on Fulton Street in Westbury. Thought I found a listing for Gabby’s of Merrick Avenue but nothing else. Late 1990s or early 2000.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
The Covanta tower is the largest clue. Photo is East of the Ring Road at Roosevelt Field, running parallel to Stewart Avenue along the path of the LIMP in the direction of where Mitchel Gardens once was located near the tower.
The intersection in the foreground is the right turn running South and parallel to the LIRR spur that connects with Quentin Roosevelt Boulevard today at Stewart Ave.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
Al captured this image on South St, this road is ‘T shaped’ between Stewart Ave and Roosevelt Field. The view is the east section that deadends. I always wondered about the building at the end, facing west. A bank maybe? Abandoned currently. Time period looks like 1990 - 1995. That’s the Covanta Stack, e/o Meadowbrook Pkwy.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
Al is looking east on South Street in Garden City (S of Roosevelt Field mall and N of Stewart Avenue). Rationale: The smokestack in the background, which I figured to be the Covanta smokestack. This is the only road near the Covanta plant that lies in a straight line right over the Motor Parkway. The building on the left, and the large white building to the left of the smokestack, match buildings in Google Street View.
I found a document on the internet that indicates that Gabby’s Shoes was located at 11 South Street. This address is occupied by Bolla Transport today, according to Google Street View. If I only knew when Gabby’s went out of business, I could probably figure out when the Foto was taken. Without that info, and judging by the cars, I’m guessing that it was sometime in the 1990s.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
No research, I’m 99% sure I know this one: Current LIMP I know. When you send pics from 100 years ago I have no idea (but still love it).
Garden City, South Street, looking East. This leads up to a fence that enters you into the woods to the south of the Meadowbrook, and north of Stewart Ave. That big driveway is no longer there, trees come into that space now.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
Southeast corner of Roosevelt Field. Looking East.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
The photographer is looking east down South Street from the Ring Road around Roosevelt Field. The buildings pretty much match those on a current Google Earth Street View. The Covanta stack to the east gives it away. I am crap at car models but I would say 2000.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
Al is standing on South Street in East Garden City facing east. He is looking down an extension of South Street on the old VP ROW that ends at a dead end. You can make out the stack of Covanta in the distance. In the current day, BJs parking lot is behind him and Akbar would be to his right.
I’m guessing the year, but ‘92 is my guess based on the age of the cars.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
The sharp bend on South St./Ring Rd
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
Al is standing on the sharp curve on South Street (looking East down the dead end extension) -at the southeast corner of Roosevelt Field. (At Al’s back directly behind him was a Benigans I’d often go to at that time.) Judging by the years of the closest identifiable vehicles (Ford Explorer, Jeep Cherokee, Honda Civic) I’d place this sometime around 1998.
From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: South Street On the Motor Parkway Right-Of-Way in East Garden City
Besides all this excitement, that’s actually a great image of the parkway bridge in 1930. Criminals in general must have utilized the LIMP for quick and relatively safe getaways. They still had to play it cool when approaching a toll ( doubt they had a parkway ez pass ). Pay the toll, try not to look suspicious and be nice to the lodge keeper.
From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway and the Bellmore Bank Robbery
From Art Kleiner:
Thanks Mike - yes, I enjoyed researching it. Especially when I first saw it in “True Detective Mysteries” magazine. I wasn’t sold on it as “True”, but with so much local detail (and of course it being in the NY Times), I was convinced. The article spanned 3 issues with lots of information, and seemed like a TV drama scanning through it.
But sorry, I first thought Crawford was a NC detective, but looked him up and saw he starred in “Highway Patrol” as Dan Mathews. Now if you said Joe Friday (Jack Webb) I would have known right away!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broderick_Crawford
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Friday
From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway and the Bellmore Bank Robbery
Very interesting story Art! I too grew up just a 10 minute walk from the Newbridge Road Bridge. The event took place long before Broderick Crawford and the Highway Patrol were around. He would have nabbed them for sure!
From Kleiner's Korner: The Motor Parkway and the Bellmore Bank Robbery
Did a little more digging, and discovered that the Jones Variety Store was located at 251-255 Elm Street in West Springfield, placing it about 1.7 miles away from where Storrowton Village is located at the Big E (Eastern States Exposition).
From Mystery Painting #21 Partially Solved: A Work of Art from the Long Island Automotive Museum
Do you have any other vintage humorous automobile postcards? Please add them to the Comments section.
From Kleiner's Korner: Humorous Postcards from the Helck Family Collection
I’d promised a BIG treat but it somehow didn’t post; let’s try again. I grew up with this hysterical automotive sporting print above my grandfather’s mantel, so I knew it at least since 1937 or so. It’s been remounted and now hangs above mine. The image itself is about 20” x 30” and is titled “The Meet at the Black Swan”. After I took a really bad pic of it through glass, it occurred to me to look on line; it turns out to be rather famous and is credited to Stuart Travis, ca. 1901. It’s chock full of great details. In the vernacular, ENJOY! Sam, III
From Kleiner's Korner: Humorous Postcards from the Helck Family Collection
Look carefully at this last DeDion Bouton card; there are two three-wheeled Camionettes shown, plus the two vis-à-vis and a steam autobus! Now, why would a fully-caparisoned Pierrot be driving the buggy? Also, why is the ad label spelled “Camioniette” (with a second “i”)? Such fun! Sam, III
From Kleiner's Korner: Humorous Postcards from the Helck Family Collection
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