Vanderbilt Cup Races

Sam, Your right. Back to Tiffany/Vanderbilt. The families were actually connected, in a round about fashion. ... sort of… Willie’s mother, Alva, had a sister Mary, (Jennie) who married a William George Tiffany, don’t think he was related to Louis Tiffany. Any way ...  he was a cousin of O.H.P. Belmont, Alva’s second husband.

Not only that, I think Willie and Louie knew each other.  Louis C. Tiffany had a “summer cottage” at Newport, plus his wife Louise, was involved with several charities that Willie’s wife participated in.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

#N6 Cadillac driven by F.W. Darmstadt. Finished 6th on Sept 10th 1908 during the Nassau Sweepstakes.

Purely a guess here on the photographer, but I’ll say William Pickering.

From Mystery Foto #34 Solved: The N6 Cadillac Getting Ready to Start in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes

Har, de har, har!  To stick to Tiffany, this thread’s a real jewel, truly sterling!  [HK’s gonna kill us!  Hey, if the DNC can have a comedian, so can we.]  To atone, here’s a great aerial view.  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Sam, “Rest on my laurels” ?  Na, will leave that to Hardy.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Pics then and now: the glass bridge—yes, it’s still there.

Love this stuff.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

So sorry I didn’t see this. You know I would have gotten this one!

Pics—-then and now: the smoke stack.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Shoulda added - you can rest on your Laurels!  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Just *MAGNIFICENT*, Al!  :·)  Sam, III

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

O.K. ITS NIT-PICKING TIME !!!!!  The Tiffany mansion was not built in Laurel Hollow because there was no Laurel Hollow in 1902. At the time the area was part of Cold Spring Harbor. The area didn’t incorporate as a village until 1926 and even then,the name chosen, was not…. Laurel Hollow. The residents of the area settled on “Laurelton”.... you know,... like Laurelton in Queens ? Well that led to some confusion, (duh),  so in 1935 the name was changed to… (hold your breath,)  Laurel Hollow, Tiffany didn’t know this because he died in 1933. So, send in your corrections and apologies,  NOW!

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

Edwin Ross Thomas (from wnyheritage.org)

From Kleiner's Korner: From the Helck Family Collection- In Search of the 1905 Locomobile Racer

Diverging widely and wildly, “effete East” back in 1907?  Spiro who?  Wikipedia seems to conflate the two E. R. Thomases.  Can anyone put names to the “E. R.” of Buffalo/Flyer fame?  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Korner: From the Helck Family Collection- In Search of the 1905 Locomobile Racer

This article in The Motor Way of May 24, 1906 provides a brief background into the “Three Thomases of Motor Fame”.

From Kleiner's Korner: From the Helck Family Collection- In Search of the 1905 Locomobile Racer

Brian got me going, here!  Yes, Zorn’s pix are great, and include a wider view of the lot.  Lots more “boxes” - and another convertible to identify!  Sam, III

From Updated: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Bethpage's Important Section of the Motor Parkway & Zorn's

Art, In September 1906 the Dragon Automobile Company was organized…... Maybe ?

From Open Discussion: Powerhouse Road

Greg, I’m assuming the main road to the estate was Laurel Hollow Rd. since the it was relatively close to the mansion.  There was another entrance of consequence to the estate, it was off of the north end of Oyster Bay Cove Rd. The 1906 and 1914 atlases identify the estate as “Elmwood”  When Tiffany acquired the property, (from several parties), it included the Laurelton Hotel which was near the north end of Laurel Hollow Rd . on it’s east side. I guess thats where “Laurelton Hall” comes from.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

A similar photo from The Motor Way of September 20, 1906 showing the power plant which in this photo is called the “Mineola Light and Power Plant”.  Anybody want to comment on the significance of the dragon guarding the cup?

From Open Discussion: Powerhouse Road

Think I see various fowl in the open sheds you point out, Sam III. Their website - zornsofbethpage.com has a neat timeline with past photos, check it out.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Bethpage's Important Section of the Motor Parkway & Zorn's

1938 Aerial
mansion crudely in yellow, lake in blue, smokestack minaret in red

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

A few more of where the current remnants locations are in the private backyards.

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow

The chapel is quite beautiful and significant, not surprised that some kneel down in prayer when encountered. That’s the best looking smokestack I ever seen, designed like a landmark or beacon. Thinking Laurel Hollow Rd was the main road that was near the estate tunnel?

From Mystery Friday Foto #33 Solved: Louis C. Tiffany's Laurelton Hall Estate in Laurel Hollow