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Frank, The name of the rodizio place is Churrasqueira Bairrada Restaurant. Ask for Manny Carvalhos, tell him Al Velocci sent you.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

Frank, It wasn’t always Krug’s Corner. In 1888 Frank P. Krug opened this location as the East Williston Hotel. Catered to and very popular with bicycle enthusiasts. He changed the name to Krug’s Corner in 1905 when Mineola Village incorporated.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

Steve is correct, pre-1910, NY State first issued license plates in 1910, front and rear of the auto.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

Hard to believe the 110 year photo comparison to present day. Admiring the old Long Island country scene with its dusty and rutty roadways. I’d
bet this particular corner was louder than most, and sometimes even rowdy. This area was renamed from Queens to Nassau County just 12 years earlier in 1899. It is impossible to park in such a manner on Jericho Tpke today, the flashing tow trucks will soon be arriving.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

I seriously doubt the car on the left being a Simplex, the reasons for my doubt following hereafter. I don’t know if by Simplex is meant the Smith & Mabley Simplex, or the American Simplex, which in 1910 changed its name to Amplex.
Neither of these makes however fit with the appearance of the car on the left:
The Smith & Mabley Simplex had a radiator shell with rounded lower corners, a segmented radiator core, a conspicuous, large triangular radiator emblem, strongly curved dumb irons and a deeper curve in the front axle. The front fenders were horizontal at the front, sloping after a sharp bend towards the running board.
The American Simplex had a radiator shell with flattened lower corners indeed, but had again a segmented radiator core, a rounded badge (if present), dumb irons clearly curved at the font, a front axle with a deep, long curve, and front fenders curving over the wheel and ending in a small horizontal tip.
The photo is unfortunately rather blurry, causing the uncertainty. Is the badge oval, or maybe a flattened rhombus, like the emblem on the Jackson from about 1911? Often a Jackson script was present on the radiator core, but not always. According to my observation the 1911 Jackson model 35 is the best candidate so far with most details matching, but the blurriness of the details make a definite conclusion for me impossible. It would help if a better, sharper scan would be available.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

CORRECTION: Ford Falcon Challenger III

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Howard at the Greenwich Concours d’Elgance Sat. June 4 2016 with the Mustang III, he needs a new blue version of this shirt and cap for his new Mustang Challenger III.

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Mystery Foto #22… the fourth car from left is a Model T Ford, maybe 1908-1910. The building is Krug’s Corner cafe & dining room. The date of the photo could be Decoration Day 1908. That’s all I’ve got. Ty

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

Congratulations Howard on the new addition to your collection of historically significant cars. Looking forward to seeing it when you are ready to put it on display!

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Congratulations on your acquisition of another historic find. Your vision to find preserve, display and run these automobiles that exhibit such unique designs, engineering and history are a testament to your commitment to the hobby and the preservation and education of us all whom enjoy it with you.

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What a most-fascinating man of so many, many venues and of such markableness!

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Krugs Corner, Mineola.  1908

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

Congratulations on another fantastic acquisition. Can’t wait to see it up close later this year.

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That’s Krug’s Hotel, Bar, and Restaurant located on the northwest corner of Jericho Turnpike and Willis Avenue in Mineola. So it looks like the photographer is facing northwest. I don’t see any state issued license plates on any of the cars so I’m guessing the date to be pre-1910, say 1908-1909. As to the identity of the cars, I’ll leave that to the Brass-Era guys since I have no idea.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

It was nice meeting up with you and Roz at the Roebling Museum “Shifting Gears” exhibit in Stonybrook a week or so ago. When you told me of the Falcon Challenger III, I was very excited, being the FORD guy that I am! Congratulations on another great acquisition for your collection, and the perfect stablemate for the Mustang III !
Looking forward to some more automotive events this summer. I will be vending at the Eddie Sachs Memorial slot car show being held in the America on Wheels Museum in Allentown, PA this coming Saturday, June 5th. Hope to see some Long Islanders at this great museum… I’ve been looking for the perfect excuse to go back since my last visit in 2019!
Again, congratulations upon completing the deal for this very special Falcon.
I can’t wait to see it! - Ernie :>)

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Interesting line-up, but I cannot say when this event took place. Logically one would think of the 4th of July because of all the American flags, but the trees seem to indicate spring (or autumn??). I know of another photo of this event (uploaded), but I couldn’t find anything in the press. The year must be 1910, or maybe 1911, as the youngest cars are 1911 models. The 1911 models however were often already available end of the year before.

About the cars: some are not that easy to recognize, especially the car on the far left, which is not 100% certain. So in my eyes the cars are (from left to right):

1911 Jackson model 35
1908 Ford model K
1911 Bergdoll
1909 or 1910 Ford model T
1909 Mitchell
1909 Cadillac
1908 Jackson runabout

The Cadillac and the Jackson runabout can also be seen on the uploaded photo. I’m not a specialist in Ford recognition, so there is some doubt about the production dates, but the model K cannot be produced later than 1908, as the production of all other models stopped when the model T went into production end of 1908.

From Mystery Foto #22 Solved: Seven parked automobiles at Krug's Corner Hotel in Mineola circa 1911-1912

Best first car show 2021

From Highlights from the 6th Annual Regimental NAFI Autoshow at the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point

Congratulations, it will be great to see these 2 together.

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Thank you Howard for bringing this article series to all of us and William K. for bringing the Cup to American auto racing fans then and now.

From Kleiner's Korner: And now for something completely different #4- Willie K.

Very cool and interesting to read…He had fun during his time on earth . RIP !

From Kleiner's Korner: And now for something completely different #4- Willie K.