Vanderbilt Cup Races

Interesting cage…

From Restoration Update #1: The 1962 Holman-Moody Challenger III

Based on the preliminary photos (and video here), it’s clear this build is heading towards the trophy. Congrats to the IDA team’s amazing work and to Howard for finding her. Good luck all, I’d love to see her completed someday while sitting in the sunshine.

From Restoration Update -July 30,2021: 1962 Holman Moody Challenger III' s windshield and gas tanks

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Karen Lieberman: Beautiful color!

Karen Lieberman: Reminds me of “Waltz Blue”. ????

Rob Ida: Karen Lieberman yes! It does look like waltz blue!

Artie Pierce: Love that car .

John Ciccone: That’s awesome

Al Liebmann: Wow that’s awesome

Robert Jones: Whoa Now?!
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Justin Morrison: ABSOLUTELY stunning!

Richard Lentinello: Looking great!!!!!

Tom Holder: Awesome Work

Ryan Tuttle: That color laid nicely on that custom body.

Erik Warren Anderson: Amazing color! What color is that?

Rob Ida: Erik Warren Anderson, Ford Team color

Erik Warren Anderson: Rob Ida thanks. Saw it and thought that should be the color of my harley when I repaint it.

Randy Davis: Awesome
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Joe Gambino: Beautiful what is it rob a falcon?
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Rob Ida: Joe Gambino, it’s a 1962 Falcon that Holman Moody chopped 3” and sectioned 3” for FoMoCo. Alloy doors, hood, deck and Fastback roof

Joe Gambino: Rob, Love it very cool ????

Stephen Paul Kenney: Another award winning show car

Alex Finigan: What condition was it in when you got it?

Rob Ida: Alex Finigan somewhere between great and excellent
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Thom Speed: Beautiful

Larry Blanchet: Love the color!

Tom Cotter:Man, you guys work quick! Impressive.

Scott Lachenauer: Love the color. Close to my barracuda color

Tom Montgomery: Gorgeous!!!!! Love the color!

Charles Pivirotto: Love it! Great work!

David Fansin: Hell yes !!!!!!

Wanda Blanchet: Love the color

Jared Lapp: Niiiice

Artie J. Schilling: Super Cool!

Rich Bozzelli: Great color nice job ????

Scott Snizek: That’s a beautiful blue
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Mario Colasuonno: Very very cool!!!

Anthony Kent Writtenberry: Nice‼️

Lisa Conte-Wiener: That is a great color.

Tim Beeler: Great color ..

Brian Tanti: Beautiful work Rob ????

Clint Grantham:  What a dream car to work on.

Keith Moritz: Love the color.
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Steven Busch: The legend coming to life…..

David Scott Coker: Please post more updates.
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Phil Palmer: I like it!!!

Bob Greenhaus: That’s going to be beautiful!

Chad Matthew Hill: Damn that was fast.

Skot Randall: That’s badass

Alexander Soultanis: Lookin’ good!

Don Hilliard: What color is that? It’s beautiful.

David Jurek IDA Automotive steel or aluminum rivets? Dissimilar metals do not move at the same rate.

David Jurek I’d like to know how the aluminum fast back roof was attached to the remaining body, riveted ? Had to be some mechanical attachment, the 2 metals can’t be welded.

David Jurek: they used red metal rivets

Stan Fairlane: The Holman & Moody book was written by the guy who does the “Barn Find Hunter” series of videos on YouTube. Tom Cotter

Steven Mustakas: Cool

Rich Smith Somethings are stylish but the rear widow something out of the 40’s. Ford must have pulled some budget from this project.

Eric Kootte Weird how I know I’ve seen pictures of this car and never had any idea what it was or that it even existed. Very cool project!

Jimmy Holt: Wow, way cool!

Leroy Goodman Incredible

That’s going to be beautiful!

Chad Matthew Hill: Damn that was fast.

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Pat Clemente: Will it be shown when done?

Steve Van Blarcom: Your really moving on this one. ???????? looks great.
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John Ciccone: Russ Montelbano is killing it

From Restoration Update -July 30,2021: 1962 Holman Moody Challenger III' s windshield and gas tanks

Lee, I’m certainly not a handwriting analysis expert, but after studying to two signatures, I have to agree with you. There is nothing similar even in the smallest details with the two of them.

From Greg O's Garage: From the Helck Family Collection: Stocks and Bonds

Thank you Lee!

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Greg, I added some info on your other post about Christie stock certificates.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Greg, There is a lot out there on the web if you search around. This was Christie’s final racing car and it did have some unique features, as you noticed.  The engine is a V4, but a two throw crankshaft. So there are two master connecting rods and two sister or link rods. Each pair of rods weigh approx. 50lbs.
With a 20deg Vee angle, the firing order is uneven, that is, the cylinders don’t all fire 180 degrees apart. That’s not totally uncommon, but it is different than the other large displacement inline 4 cylinder racers of the pre-WWI period.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Lee, Incredible shots of the engine and front suspension. Christie making the engine part of the frame and overall construction of the car was revolutionary for the time.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Always looking for more photos of the Christie, ‘under the hood’ photos mainly.  We have about 100 photos of this car, but few from the rear, and only a few under the bodywork.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Colorized image of Barney and the Christie at Indianapolis.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Thank you all for your comments and kind words of support through the years.  Its been a pleasure working with Howard, Al Velocci and the rest of you to keep alive the memories of the Motor Parkway and the Vanderbilt Cup Races.  And a special thank you to the late Sam Berliner whose many pages depicting the route of the parkrway encouraged me to make this a labor of love. 

The town I am moving to NC is named Leland, near Wilmington.  You can be sure I’ll be researching local automobile races and remnants of old racing tracks in the area such as Fireball Raceway Park.

From Update: Highlights from the Long Island Motor Parkway Preservation Society meeting at Waterfront at Roslyn

The Walter Christie Automobile Company was formed mainly to promote Christie’s Taxi.  There were other Christie companies, few of which lasted very long.

From Greg O's Garage: From the Helck Family Collection: Stocks and Bonds

I believe that Christie’s signature on that stock certificate is not real.  Attached is how he signed his name before WWI.  He rarely ever used John when he signed things, until later in his life, when dealing with government contracts.

From Greg O's Garage: From the Helck Family Collection: Stocks and Bonds

The Christie Stock Certificate book was a part of the Tredwell Collection of Christie material.  I think blank certificate pages were given out over the years for fun.  Austie Clark and Floyd Clymer apparently received one each.  31 stock certificates are gone from the book.  The rest are blank.  The Tredwell Collection was passed on to Enrique Klein and after his passing, it passed on to me.  I also have Christie’s adopted son, Edward’s papers.  Besides photos in the NAHC and the Henry Ford and a couple Christie Fire Engines, there is little else of original Christie material remaining.  If anyone knows of more, I would love to know about it.

From Greg O's Garage: From the Helck Family Collection: Stocks and Bonds

I believe Petersen is related to Barney Oldfield.  Thats Oldfield at the wheel and at one time he owned that Christie race car.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Marty has taken a lot of “dents and dings” in his racing career. There’s no doubt he will recover and come back better than ever. He is truly a friend to the racing community and we are lucky to call him neighbor. Get well soon Marty!
Very Truly,
Paul Drago
Hicksville, NY

From Update July 20 2021: A visit to see Marty Himes and the Himes Museum of Automobile Nostagia

Mystery Foto #28…
The driver is Barney Oldfield at the wheel of the front drive, 1913 Christie.
As for accomplishments, I believe that Oldfield used this Christie to turn the first lap at Indianapolis at over 100mph.
At least four Christie cars were in the Vanderbilt cup races in 1905 and 1906.
Wayne Carroll Petersen is the great, great nephew of Barney Oldfield.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916

Yes it was very nice to see you all especially THE Walt Godson looking healthy, will see some of you guys tonight, hopefully? Sorry Art is leaving here on Long Island and fleeing to NC, it’s the norm these days, big bucks for the old homestead and a move to affordable living there. Art been nice with me! Even though I know most of the story about Howard cars he added some amusing trivia about his getting his Shelby Mustang and having Carroll Shelby sign the sun visor! SOMEDAY THE BETHPAGE LIBRARY!!??

From Update: Highlights from the Long Island Motor Parkway Preservation Society meeting at Waterfront at Roslyn

Such a wonderful story about your father, Art. Undoubtedly a multifaceted man. He was probably too busy to be interested in the Motor Parkway : ) Your grandparents are from Eastern Europe, I recently found out my paternal grandfather was Eastern European. I ended up as McCarthy, long story : )

From Update: Highlights from the Long Island Motor Parkway Preservation Society meeting at Waterfront at Roslyn

That’s Barney Oldfield in the 1909 140 HP Christie racer whose main accomplishment was being the first car to have a 100 mph lap at the Indianapolis Speedway on May 28.1916. Barney was Wayne’s great great uncle. The only link to V. C. R. that I could find was that Walter Christie had entered similar front wheel racers in the 1905 and 1906 V. C. races and the 1906 American Elimination Trials.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: Barney Oldfield in the 1909 Christie Racer which established the 102.6 mph Indy lap record in 1916