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Great historical Motor Parkway shots Al Kleiner, taken from newspaper clippings at the time! Likely Westbury Av over the trolley line, or could be the crossing over Rt 110 with trolley as well. The busy environment points towards Rt 110.

From Kleiner's Korner: A 1909 Motor Parkway Construction Update

I’m amazed at how much the design of the cars has changed just a few short years after the days of the Black Beast.

From Mystery Friday Foto #7; Solved; Gentlemen, Start Your Engines for the 1912 Milwaukee Vanderbilt Cup Races!

Bergerac, in Dordogne.

From Mystery Foto #26 Solved: The Two-Tone Tucker 1046 in 1956 at Sebring, Florida

And also in the town of Cherbourg, in Normandie.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Blason_ville_fr_CherbourgOcteville_(Manche).svg

From Mystery Foto #26 Solved: The Two-Tone Tucker 1046 in 1956 at Sebring, Florida

I think that this car had been in the France town of Bergerac (Dordogne).
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergerac_(Dordogne)#/media/Fichier:Blason_ville_fr_Bergerac_(Dordogne).svg

From Mystery Foto #26 Solved: The Two-Tone Tucker 1046 in 1956 at Sebring, Florida

The F is for France. Did this car went to France ?

From Mystery Foto #26 Solved: The Two-Tone Tucker 1046 in 1956 at Sebring, Florida

Good stuff Art!
The bridge over the trolley road would be Westbury Ave I presume.

And that very well may be Sydney Jones in front of the Meadow Brook lodge looking west at the Whaleneck bridge.

From Kleiner's Korner: A 1909 Motor Parkway Construction Update

Beautiful property. I remember my parents taking me as a child, touring this and other “Gold Coast” estates that were built by the 19th century industrialists. A good lesson on history and the development of our capitalist economic system which has enabled America to lift more people out of poverty than any other system. Still is the case today. We must protect it.

From Video of the Week: William K. Vanderbilt Jr.'s Summer Estate: Eagle's Nest - Centerport, NY

Hey guys, our Howard was a town historian for North Hempstead and did a book from Arcadia Publishing that did his other books of North Hempstead. You might want to check it out if has any photos of the area in question?

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

Bob,

Yes, I was quoted in the New York Times!

Howard Kroplick (AKA Howard Kroplink)

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

Al, thanks for the extra info! Would love to see a 1901 photo of the RR grade crossing then.

In regard to your answer on the toll gate, I believe the toll gate was not moved into the cemetery. Rather, Northern Blvd was realigned a few hundred feet to the south and the toll gate stayed in its original spot. The Roslyn Landmark Society seems to feel that’s what saved the toll gate from demolition.

https://www.roslynlandmarks.org/profiles/east-gate-toll-house-roslyn-cemetary

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

Greg, You have to back and take another east bound photo that shows the LIRR going over North Hempstead Turnpike to get a true picture of the grade the automobiles at one time had to climb. Originally when the Oyster Bay Line opened in 1865 the tracks over the roadway were at grade. Also, today as one leaves the Viaduct heading east note the difference in the grade of the roadway compared to the buildings on both side of the Turnpike. Your first photo shows how much soil was removed to lower the grade.  Just remembered, lore has it that the early Fords could only make the grade in reverse.

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

For Bob Allen                                                                           Sometime prior to 1850 a charter was issued by NY State to the Flushing North Hempstead Turnpike Company to construct a Plank Toll Road from Flushing to today’s Glen Cove Rd. When North Hempstead Town acquired the section within the Town the tolls were eliminated. My guess is that it was at that time the toll house was moved into the cemetery.

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

Just incredibly beautiful. And it’s just a mere shadow of what it was during Willie K’s custodianship of it…Just imagine it in it’s prime.

From Video of the Week: William K. Vanderbilt Jr.'s Summer Estate: Eagle's Nest - Centerport, NY

Very interesting article.  It brings up something I’ve been thinking about but I guess I’m too lazy to really get into: who operated the “North Hempstead Turnpike”?  I know in one of these Vanderbilt newsletters we were cautioned not to think that the old toll house in the cemetery still standing in Greenvale has anything to do with the Long Island Motor Parkway.  The fact that this rather rickety looking structure is still standing (especially without any special historical society protections) would seem to indicate that tolls were being collected fairly recently (let’s say less than 150 years ago).  At some point did the state take over the road and put a number on it (25A)?  And was Jericho Turnpike a private toll road, too?
In today’s article it’s also mentioned that these pictures show what roads on Long Island used to look like.  No wonder concrete paved LIMP was such a revelation.  But that brings to mind that in my mis-spent youth I used to read my local Port Washington News and they’d have a weekly feature of stories from 25 or 50 years ago and a frequently brought up topic was whether or not a particular politician was “oiling the roads” sufficiently.  What sort of oil were they using?  Did it mostly control the dust or did it displace the water in the mud and consolidate it?
And my final, off topic comment is, was the person quoted in Newsday about the recent special election (named Howard Krop_____, 74 years old) actually our friend Howard Kroplick, but with his name misspelled?

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

Another great visit to the LIAM, thank you Gram for all of your work. I will second the request for all that you can do on this subject….most enjoyable.  I am attaching pictures of a postcard for the Type 35 Bugatti, one of many collected on visits to the museum.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Unpublished Long Island Automotive Museum Photos from 1958 to 1962 Part 3

Great article, I have been compiling a time line of the Port Jefferson Hillclimbs. Still finding stuff. As it stands to date

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

John Pickering-
Here’s a link to all your great grandfather’s work.

https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/tag/william+pickering

From The Roslyn Hill Climb in the 1901 Long Island Endurance Test

Wow! This is the best look into these rare photos yet! I love that you are trying to track down all the autos that were once in the museum. Sure hope they are all in good homes.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Unpublished Long Island Automotive Museum Photos from 1958 to 1962 Part 3

It’s becoming hard to actually realize that I only visited the museum once for a short afternoon with my Mom, Dad and Brother. All of the cars and the postcards seem so vivid on recall. I’m so thrilled my son Gram is doing such a deep, archival dive on every car and every aspect of the museum. All I can say is… MORE MORE MORE!

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Unpublished Long Island Automotive Museum Photos from 1958 to 1962 Part 3