Vanderbilt Cup Races

This is wonderful and nice to know its being restored. I first read about the place in Monica Randall’s book, ” The Mansions of Long Island’s Gold Coast ” and she shed more light on the second owner. What a beautiful mansion.

From Then & Now: The Home of Driver Foxhall Keene in Old Westbury

Easy one.This is the future Levittown with the Motor Parkway in left center and the Wantagh Parkway at the bottom. This is were the grandstands were and one of the oldest sections of the Parkway.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: Levittown/Bethpage on May 27, 1947

Looking eastward over Island Trees, present day Levittown. At bottom of photo, left to right, is the Wantagh State Parkway, spanned by the LIMP on the left; the Newbridge Rd span in the center; then the cloverleaf at Hempstead Tpkke. on the right. There is a LIMP bridge (Jerusalem Avenue) at the top center; the Bloomingdale Rd. bridge is center left.  In the far center are the Wantagh Avenue and Hicksville Rd. (Massapequa Lodge) bridges.The date is about 1946. There are no Levitt homes yet (1947-1951). There are several homes at the bottom right which were pre-Levittown.  Gulf Flying Field existed near the bottom center.  There was another airfield at the center right on the south side of Hempstead Tpke. where St. Bernard’s Church now stands. Near the top left stood the Hicksville Aviation Country Club.  Races held here—1908, 09 10.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: Levittown/Bethpage on May 27, 1947

Re: ” This may be the only existing film of a Motor Parkway gate lodge when the road was active.”, reminder - keep looking, Howard.  I used to frequent the Trans-Lux{?} Newsreel at 74th{?} and Madison during WWII and clearly remember a newsreel feature of the LIMP.  Bear in mind that it had just been closed and Dad drove me out and back, quite probably on the last day, with me standing up in the back seat, hanging on for dear life to the rug rope, so it was still vivid in my young mind (then).  Sam, III

From Documenting W.C. Fields on the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1925

I’ll be seeing you April 2 at your presentation,I’m looking foward to it,I would very much like to explore the Motor Parkway

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Forgot to mention about the display at Simeone Automotive Museum of Aston Martin on Saturday was great,there were 30 of them there,what cars,some of them looked like a Porsche,one looked like the back of a1965 Mustang Fastback another like the back of a Ford Pinto,americanized cars. They ranged from 1930s till now

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer

Had to do alot of research on this mystery,but it was well worth it,to know a little more about history in the making. This time I tried to solve it,I had an idea on how to do it,so I took a shot at it,thought maybe I would solve part of it.

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer

Gustave Lancelot (1830-1906) was a French photographer from Troyes, France (cf. the inscription on the photograph). Meaning that he was already 74 when he shot this photograph! The photograph seems to have been coincidental, because I do not know of any other photographs on the subject by him. However if you are interested in images of early car racing events in France, check the site http://gallica.bnf.fr/ where you can find a wealth of information on this. Check particularly the photographic albums of Jules Beau (1864-1932), an important photographer of early French sporting events including automobiles around the turn of the century (he is the source of the Semaine de Nice photograph, by the way).

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer

Haa,I guess I’m the first to see the results of the mystery,being that I’m always on the site to keep up with you. Another great job. I guess nobody from here could solve it according to the comments that I see now,but someone might,it’s not Tuesday yet

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer

Yes Howard,I looked through all the particapating cars in the races and couldn’t find it anywhere,I even searched on an old car website and,I wanted to try to find out what kind of a car it is,but nothing even looked like it,as to where you sit in it,but the rest of the car looks alike. Anxious to know where it will be found by someone

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer

This car strongly resembles the 1908 ITALA Grand Prix car, which sold at austion last year for over $2m. I saw the car racing many times during the VSCC races in England during the ‘60s driven by its owner Cecil (Sam) Clutton. The car is featured on page 48-49 in his book “The Vintage Motor Car”. It has a 12 litre, four cylinder engine - and was something to see and hear! This ITALA now has wire wheels, not wooden wheels as shown.

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer

Sam III, you are pointing to the Central Avenue Bridge that went over both the road and the LIRR. The Nibbe Farmway Bridge was located near the bottom of the “M” on the map. The map did not indicate the bridge. These posts may be helpful: http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/tag/tag/stymus+farm

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/from_the_noel_gish_collection_postcards_from_the_vanderbilt_cup_races_long_

Howard I

From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races

Nibbe’s Hollow was north of the Stymus property.  The bridge to which I refer is shown as instantly above/north of (adjacent to) the CPAve/LIRR bridge.  Here, I marked up a smitch of the map:

  http://sbiii.com/limppix/stymusbr.jpg

to be most specific.  Is THAT the Nibbe bridge?

Sam, III

From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races

I’d go with 1906 but it’s clearly noted “Lancelot”, whatever that proves.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer

Very nice presentation.  The Belcher-Hyde map lets me see the part of the parkway that I used to hike on when I was a kid in the early 1950’s, living in Plainedge/North Massapequa.  Thanks!

Ken

From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races

Hi Sam III, I believe you are referring to the Nibbe Farmway Bridge, the next bridge after the Central Ave/LIRR Bridge:

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/sunday_december_19_2010

Howard I

From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races

Here’s a puzzler for you folks; if you follow the LIMP RoW east/north/ward from Deadman’s Curve on the 1923 Belcher-Hyde map, the RoW crosses Central Park Avenue and the LIRR with no delineation of the major bridges there BUT then crosses what appears to be an extension of today’s Schneider Lane on a carefully inked bridge to the Wm. O. Stymus property!  If this bridge is on your bridges of the Vanderbilt Cup Races page http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/tuesday_december_8_2009_the_bridges_of_the_vanderbilt_cup_races  , I can’t find it (but, as you wrote, you can’t trust maps”).  Sam, III

From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races

Would you please be kind enough to list this on your car show / events calendar for APRIL 2013

THANK YOU !!


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From Meghan F.
“Thanks again, Howard! The mystery photo post was a great idea.”

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Driver Bob Burman and his Mechanician Jack Gable at the 1915 Indy 500 Race

@Bob: You can try to contact PreWarCar at http://www.prewarcar.com/contact.html . A lot of experts around there.

@Mark: Hi Mark! 😉

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Driver Bob Burman and his Mechanician Jack Gable at the 1915 Indy 500 Race