Vanderbilt Cup Races

Keep the updates coming I think they are great and am really enjoying the progress of the restoration.

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle III: An Amazing Discovery

This is the Fresh Meadow Country Club golf course and surrounding area, the western terminus of the LIMP. North Hempstead Turnpike running horizontally across the middle. Central RR of Long Island. Black Stump Road (73rd Avenue) in the lower right corner. Queens Road (Hollis Court Boulevard) in the upper right corner.

From Mystery Foto #17 Solved: A 1924 Aerial of the Future Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows

Addendum,

The road running horizontally at the bottom of the photo was the old Black Stump Rd., which was renamed 73rd Ave. - the same 73rd Ave. over which the parkway goes.

From Mystery Foto #17 Solved: A 1924 Aerial of the Future Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows

For me - this is where I grew up. Freash Meadows. The long diagonal was, and still is, the abandoned Central Railroad of Long Island that went all the way out to Garden City, and a little beyond, which the magnate Stewart built. Some tracks are still extant in Garden City, where I had my law office for many years. My family was a member of the Fresh Meadows Synagogue, which was right at Peck Ave. next to the old railroad right of way, on the north side of what became Horace Harding. I would have to walk across the abandoned railroad right of way if I walked to shul.

The golf course is Fresh Meadows.

The top diagonal road is the old Queens Road, which was named Hollis Court Blvd. when I was a kid. After the LIE and Clearview Expressways were built, the portion south of of the LIE that remained was renamed Hollis Court Terrace. The portion of the diagonal road at the upper left was the old Lawrence Ave., which became 50th Ave., I grew up at the intersection of 51st Ave and 199th St.

As of 1924, Nassau Blvd (Horace Harding) hadn’t been built. Neither had Francis Lewis Blvd been built, albeit in stages, which was originally named Cross Island Blvd; the name was changed to Francis Lewis when the Cross Island Parkway opened in 1938. But that was a little before my time, as I was born in 1948.

I am happy to say that I spent a good part of my youth on the Vanderbilt Parkway, and sped along all the way out to Creedmor. What a ride!

The almost horizontal road that abuts the golf course and ends at a T-intersection with the old Queens Road was North Hempstead Turnpike. It was renamed Booth Memorial in the early 60s from what I remember. It went right by my high school - Francis Lewis.

From Mystery Foto #17 Solved: A 1924 Aerial of the Future Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows

From Bruce K:

That is a very neat feature with the door handle!

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle III: An Amazing Discovery

OpenStreetMap does not show the entire 44 mile route of the LIMP. It assumes that the Suffolk portion follows CR 67.  CR 67 was moved in the area of Sagtikos State Parkway and the LIE and some of the curves were changed. Look at the google map for the LIMP in the above mentioned area.:
Google Map of LIMP:  http://goo.gl/maps/Ah1ne

From Mystery Foto #17 Solved: A 1924 Aerial of the Future Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows

Amazing.  Both that Chrysler designed it, and Babinsky and Co. figured out what it was for and how to fix it.

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle III: An Amazing Discovery

It sure is a fascinating car!  Though I wonder if Walter considered the window feature for his higher end cars!

Ron

From Chrysler’s Chrysler Chronicle III: An Amazing Discovery

Howard,
Too funny! I found that NYCity map site earlier this morning before you posted the link while researching this picture! It was tough without it, but it made it real easy to confirm that it is indeed what I suspected it was; the future Western terminus for the LIMP in Fresh Meadows. I don’t know the name of the golf course, but the long abandoned railroad would be the old Central RR. The roads in the area would also be the usual suspects; North Hempstead Turnpike, Horace Harding, 73rd etc.

From Mystery Foto #17 Solved: A 1924 Aerial of the Future Western Terminus in Fresh Meadows

Thanks a whole lot Howard. I’m going to get on it right now,it’s a good day to do it.

From Clean Up the Historic Deadman's Curve in Bethpage on Saturday, June 22, 2013

Ted, Steve Lucas provided this link: http://www.openstreetmap.org/ .

Move the cursor to Long Island .Click on any Motor Parkway location and the entire 44-mile path can be found from Fresh Meadows, Queens to Lake Ronkonkoma, Suffolk County.

From Clean Up the Historic Deadman's Curve in Bethpage on Saturday, June 22, 2013

Howard,what’s that website that you can find all the limp locatoins on current maps,that was mentioned at the meeting ? Thanks.I hope you have it.

From Clean Up the Historic Deadman's Curve in Bethpage on Saturday, June 22, 2013

Ariejan, good question!

The photo was from a Motor Parkway article in a road engineering magazine.

Howard

From Clean Up the Historic Deadman's Curve in Bethpage on Saturday, June 22, 2013

For the record, the touring car on the 1910 photo surely must be a Chalmers-Detroit of 1910, probably a model Fourty. From Kimes’ Standard Catalog I understand, that the Vanderbilts had Chalmer-Detroits in the garage. So the question now is: who’s at the wheel?

From Clean Up the Historic Deadman's Curve in Bethpage on Saturday, June 22, 2013

Great pics!  The detail on the car is amazing.  I make car model’s myself and there never really finished, always adding more realistic items.

From Mystery Foto #16 Solved: A 2013 Photo of a Model of Old 16 Locomobile

The only doubt i would have on looking east thru the Claremont Road Bridge is the angle of the Foster bridge would be the opposite. The photographer standing west of the Claremont Road Bridge on the right side of the road to shoot the picture through to the Foster Farmway Bridge, the abuttment on the right would have to be closer, not further away, according to the map. Mike

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

Another guess of mine is the Claremont Road Bridge and the Foster Farmway Road Bridge looking east through the Claremont Road bridge east toward Foster Farmway Bridge. Its pretty much a straight line with a slight curve and the Foster Bridge is cut on a slight angle visible in the picture. This is also west of Huntington which would justify the no parking sign. Mike L

From Mystery Foto #9 Possibly Solved: Powell Avenue Bridge and Nibbe Farmway Bridge in Bethpage?

thanks for posting my work Howard- If any readers are interested in seeing how the model was built they can go to the   fotki   website and look up member ‘‘f1ford49’’ then in my gallery ‘‘OLD 16’’  there is the complete story of the build.  the car in the background is also Peter Helck’s MERCER.  this diorama is what the inside of Mr Helcks Car Barn may have looked like. it is also scenery for all of my builds. for more info and comments I can be reached at .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

From Mystery Foto #16 Solved: A 2013 Photo of a Model of Old 16 Locomobile

The detailed work is exquisite!! Congratulations Mr. Schaeffer. Had me fooled.

From Mystery Foto #16 Solved: A 2013 Photo of a Model of Old 16 Locomobile

That was a tricky one,fooled me and a few others, Never even considered it being a scale model till now,I notice it is on a table. How’d I do with the other answers,the year it was built and when it raced? See you on Thursday nite

From Mystery Foto #16 Solved: A 2013 Photo of a Model of Old 16 Locomobile