Vanderbilt Cup Races

Fascinated by the story! Thank you very much.

Jen

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Sounds like a great idea - wonder if it was made with Mackay silver?

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Congratulations!  However, what an incredible foul-up for Hemmings!  The so-gennant “1947 De Soto” is actually a 1937 DeSoto Airflow!  Also, there is no space between “De” and “Soto” in the brand name.  Sam, III

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From Sam Berliner III:

Even though we aficionados know just what you mean, the phrase “the one and only Vanderbilt Cup” is a wee bit misleading to the general public; “the original Vanderbilt Cup” might better serve.  There’s always the 1936-37 George W. Vanderbilt, III Cup and the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup; neither one is “the” V. Cup”, but each, quite unlike the CART Cup, is very definitely “a” V. Cup.  Sam, III

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Even though we aficionados know just what you mean, the phrase “the one and only Vanderbilt Cup” is a wee bit misleading to the general public; “the original Vanderbilt Cup” might better serve.  There’s always the 1936-37 George W. Vanderbilt, III Cup and the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup; neither one is “the” V. Cup”, but each, quite unlike the CART Cup, is very definitely “a” V. Cup.  Sam, III

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Howard -  Excellent historical background on ‘the Cup’.  I would certainly concur that it should be returned to a place of honor where it would mean the most -  Long Island.

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Jeff, here is a link to the post on the EMRA “Vanderbilt Cup”:
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/friday_april_24_2009_a_vanderbilt_cup_seeking

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Howard,
I agree that the Trophy should be displayed for public viewing and what a better place than it’s original home where the history began. I totally agree that historical items like these should have an appropriate place for public viewing to carrry on the history to future generations. Out of sight out of mind! Good Luck Howard.
Best regards,
Wayne Carroll Petersen
Barney Oldfield Great Great Nephew

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

I would agree.  The trophy is certainly part of Long Island history.  To me it makes sense to display it at the Vanderbilt Museum here rather than storing it out of sight at the Smithsonian.
    Ken

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It would be nice to have it on Long Island, but I am not completely sure where the proper display location is at the moment.
Unfortunately, security is a bit of a problem for a 30 lb. piece of silver.

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It’s great the Smithsonian offered the “Cup” a permanent home, but I have to take issue with it being stored in a locker. I f that’s the case then return it to the family and maybe let them display it in the Long Island estate.

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Thanks for answering a question many of us had and never thought to ask. It’s certainly a pity that the cup isn’t on permanent display at the museum; absent that, it should come back to Long Island. How about on your mantle at home?

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Dear Howard,

Thanks for this very interesting story.

As I am sure you know, after WW II, there were renewed Vanderbilt Cup races held at Bridgehampton for which a trophy was given.  I had heard that it was last held by EMRA and then disappeared.  Do you know anything about this?  Was this a new “Vanderbilt Cup” that had been produced for these races ?  I am sure I saw it at some point as I was at several of those post WW II events but I do not remember it or what it looked like. 

Thanks for any information you can shed on this.

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Brilliant Idea! William K would approve too.

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I almost fully agree with you Howard! Except I believe it should be on permanent loan here at the Vanderbilt museum along with “Old 16” along side it! Now that would be a real good boost in revenue for the museum1After all it was our races and our cup! It’s like the “Elgin Marbles” being in the British museum, why it’s positively sacrilegious!

From Who Owns the Original Vanderbilt Cup Trophy and Where Is It Today?

Know what guys, I’m going to leave this one for you guys. Most of the car look the same to me,with the square radiators and known of the others are a team. Good luck to you all

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: The FIAT Team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

The photo shows the FIAT-team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup. From left to right we see the works drivers Felice Nazarro and Vincenzo Lancia, and Dr. Aldo Weilschott, the Italian driver millionaire with his private FIAT. The photo will have been taken somewhere between the first practice day (Monday 1 October) and the race itself (Saturday 6 October).
Nazarro’s mechanician was Antonio Fagnano (his name is spelled somewhat odd at this site). In these years he was Nazarro’s regular mechanician. After being mechanician for De Palma in the 1912 French Grand Prix he would become a Fiat driver himself in the 1914 French Grand Prix (with his brother as a mechanician).
Lancia’s mechanician would have been Ajassa Battista according to this site. However I can’t find this name anywhere. Pietro Bordino was Lancia’s regular mechanician, at least during the 1905 Gordon Bennett Cup en the 1906 French Grand Prix. So I hope you can give some more information on this?
Weilschott’s mechanician was Colombo. There was a Colombo driving a SCAT at the 1914 Coppa Florio and the 1914 Targa Florio. And then there was a Dan Colombo who was killed at Omaha Speedway on July 15, 1916 while driving as a mechanician for Franchi on a Peugeot-Sunbeam. I wonder if they were all the same Colombo?

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: The FIAT Team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Talking about Classic cars. I got an e-mail from a buddy of mine,he sent me pics of a 1950 chevy all original,never been restored and only has 437 original miles on it,clean as a whistle,plaid seat covers,automatic transmittion,staight six cylinder,now that’s a car to have and treasure.

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Hi howard       I like your choice of favorites,but a little out of my class,just wishfull thinking

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WOW! The Prince Henry Benz that Barney Oldfield, Master Driver of the World and America’s Legendary Speed King raced from 1910 through 1912.
Best regards,
Wayne Carroll Petersen
Barney Oldfield Great Great Nephew

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