Vanderbilt Cup Races

Howard, I’m not miffed but you did NOT read my 04 Jan 9:15 PM post!  DC-2s had a jog in the rudder hinge line; DC-3’s had a straight hinge line.  By the way, nacelles on the first EAL DC-3, as pictured above, were NOT different from the DC-2’s.  1931 Chryslers had an internal horn (behind the grille); dual external horns didn’t appear on production models until 1932 (http://sbiii.com/chryslr4.html#grilles).  Loves ya ennyhoo.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto 2015 #1: Roosevelt Field and Roosevelt Raceway in July 1937 (Updated with a Then & Now)

This is a view of the Fresh Meadows area looking north, near the western terminus of the Long Island Motor Pkwy. The LIMP enters on the left side, heads south and then makes a 90 degree turn to the east through a large group of trees. Union Tpke. runs east - west along the bottom of the photo with Little Neck Bay in the upper right. The three LIMP bridges that can be seen are North Hempstead Tpke., 73rd. Ave., and Hollis Hills Terrace. Horace Harding Blvd. runs east - west just above where the LIMP enters the photo. Since there is no Francis Lewis Blvd. to the east of the LIMP and no major development of Cunningham Park, I’m going to guess the date of the photo to be about 1939.

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

-Identify the location and the aerial’s orientation
Fresh Meadows, Queens, looking north.

-Identify the key roads and features
Union Turnpike at the bottom left to right, Motor Parkway parallel to Union and thru the trees of Cunningham Park until it curves north on the bottom left. See the 73rd Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge (and entrace onto the Motor Parkway), Hollis Hills Terrace (aka Court) Bridge, North Hempstead Bridge, Horace Harding Blvd., Oakland CC Golf Course just below Little Neck Bay.

-What is the approximate date of the aerial? Provide your rationale.
1939 before the building of Francis Lewis Blvd. and opening of Union Turnpike.

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

No fair!  A flyover in automotive parlance is a grade-separated (over-and-under) road crossing, which, of course, is what I expected to find, probably in conjunction with the Roosevelt racecourse accesses!  Not that I’m in any way disappointed with THIS kind of flyover.  Thanks once again, Howard.  Sam, III

From The Spectacular 1936 Long Island Motor Parkway Flyover

About 1938, looking N at Cunningham Park in Fresh Meadows before Francis Lewis Blvd (1941)/Clearview Expwy (1960). Judging the foliage, it’s about June. This may be just before or after the LIMP closed in 1938. Where are the bicycles, where are the cars?
The large radius curve location was site of the planned junction where the LIMP would have had two western terminating points. 
The existing pedestrian bridge over Francis Lewis Blvd is about 380ft. north of here, following Francis Lewis Blvd’s center line, and continues to keep the Motor Pkwy connected today. 
That temporary entrance ramp from 73rd Av must have caused some headaches for gatekeeper Sidney Jones at the Rocky Hill Lodge, where he’d greet unsuspecting toll evaders, and kindly redirect them down the ramp back onto Springfield Blvd. Ugh! No matter. That free 1.5 mile park ride through canopied trees was well worth the trip. The wide toll plaza seems intentionally built to accommodate U-turns. 

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

It looks like the Fresh Meadows-Hollis Hills area looking west with the LIMP running bottom to top and the 73rd Street bridge visible near the bottom and North Hempstead Tpke and Horace Harding Expy running across the distant top

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

Noticed a very unusual radio antenna mounted behind the pilot. For a biplane of that type it seems to tall for a antenna.

From The Spectacular 1936 Long Island Motor Parkway Flyover

From Gorden:

This is so great thanks

From Mystery Foto 2015 #1: Roosevelt Field and Roosevelt Raceway in July 1937 (Updated with a Then & Now)

From Robert R:

Wonderful piece on “The Hard Boiled Egg,”  Howard.

Just terrific piece of history.

From Willie K.'s "Hard Boiled Egg" Auto Boat

Cyril R. I know that feeling too, I’m 73

From Mystery Foto 2015 #1: Roosevelt Field and Roosevelt Raceway in July 1937 (Updated with a Then & Now)

You are so right about that George. Where did all that time go?, and how fast the land developed.

From The Spectacular 1936 Long Island Motor Parkway Flyover

From Cyril R:

As usual excellent piece on the mystery photo of Roosevelt Field / Raceway.

Please pass along an email of appreciation to Janet Guthrie. 

Had the pleasure and privilege of seeing her race at the beginning of her career.  This was a Lime Rock CT and some other SCCA venues of the day, Bridgehampton and Thompson (CT). I had also been to Watkins Glen and Upper Marlboro MD, but memory is not sufficient to recall if I saw her race there too.

She was pushing her Jag at the time and was the only woman driver. The amateur team I was with was pushing a Lotus 11 which was in a different category than her Jag.

In any case, I remember her well (with the sharper memory of youth- I am 70 now)  Then the US Army,  service in Vietnam,  aftermath, followed by a career took me on different of interests

It was good to see her name once again. Bought back nice memories, she was ( is ) a hard charger. Again, it was privilege.

Have a good 2015

From Mystery Foto 2015 #1: Roosevelt Field and Roosevelt Raceway in July 1937 (Updated with a Then & Now)

Identify the location and the aerial’s orientation

The Western end of the LIMP looking Northwards in Queens.

-Identify the key roads and features

Union Tpke across the bottom. Hollis Court Blvd and LIMP bridge diagonally across the photo.

-What is the approximate date of the aerial? Provide your rationale.

Approx. 1939. Union Tpke looks to be completed but Francis Lewis Blvd has not been built.

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

The photo is of the Fresh Meadows terminus of the Vanderbilt’s Long Island Motor Parkway and the surrounding area; I grew up in Fresh Meadows during the ‘50s on the other side of Horace Harding. I can see PS 162 in the upper right, which is where I went to grade school. Given that PS 162 opened in 1936, the photo is after that date, but was before Francis Lewis Blvd. cut through Cunningham Park (Hillside Park). Because the gap in Francis Lewis Blvd. between Horace Harding and Hillside Ave. can be seen, the photo shows the turn in the parkway from south to east across what was to become Francis Lewis Blvd. And because construction on Francis Lewis was done during the War, and was not opened until 1946, I’d have to say that the photo was taken between 1937 and 1941. I also can see the completely wooded area where my boyhood house was eventually built; 199th St. and 51st Ave. two blocks west of PS 162.

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

1)Over Queens looking north
2)Extreme bottom Union Turnpike. Left side Motor parkway curving east directly above Union Turnpike. Slanting across middle Hollis Hills Blvd. Upper center running east /west Horace Harding Blvd.
3)1935-40 Motor parkway still in use

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

The aerial photos make you realize how fast history and farmland can disappear, and how important it is to save the open spaces of the North Fork.

From The Spectacular 1936 Long Island Motor Parkway Flyover

Recusing myself!! 😊

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

I like the ‘67 300 as well!  Not seen to often at shows.

From Walter P. Chrysler's Granddaughter and Great-Grandson Reconnect with Chrysler's Chrysler

The mystery aerial was taken at Fresh Meadows, looking north, circa 1939.  Union Turnpike appears at the bottom of the photo running East/West.  The 73rd Avenue Parkway Bridge (#2) appears near the middle of the left edge of the photo.  The temporary 73rd Ave. Motor Parkway entrance ramp can be seen to the South of the 73rd Avenue Bridge.  The Hollis Court Blvd. Parkway Bridge (#3) appears near the lower right corner of the photo.  Little Neck Bay can be seen in the upper right corner of the photo.  The final section of Francis Lewis Blvd., completed in 1940, does not appear in the photo.  However, the photo shows that the Northern section of the boulevard, which appears running North/South in the upper left of the frame, has been widened and a median constructed; placing the date of the photo between 1938 and December 1940.

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938

It took a couple of seconds to get my bearing.  Looking north, near the western end of the LIMP.  We see the 73rd Ave & Hollis Ct Blvd bridges.  The bridge over North Hemp Tpke is hidden up there too.  It is obviously after 1926, when this extension of the parkway was completed.  It is also before the Clearview Expressway, The LIE, and even before Francis Lewis Blvd was done.  I would say 1930.

From Mystery Foto 2015 #2 Solved: Cunningham Park, the Motor Parkway and Union Turnpike in 1938