Vanderbilt Cup Races

-Identify this Vanderbilt Cup Race team
#18 Darracq driven by Victor Hemery with Victor Demogeot as mechanician

-What is the approximate date of the photo?
October 1905

-Where was the team headquarters located?
Glenwood hotel in Sea Cliff

From Mystery Foto #9 B Solved:The 1905 Darracq Team Headquartered at the Hotel Glenwood, Glenwood Landing

Nice enlargement of the tire ad, that wasn’t possible back in 2013. The artists’ signature can be clearly seen! If memory fails, I believe it was Mr. Helck that stated this mystery garage was not the one in Bristol.

From Mystery Friday Foto #9: Can You Identify This Old 16 Locomobile Photo?

Hello Howard. Is this current mystery foto somehow related to mystery foto #9 from 2013? If I you don’t see this question before Monday, I’ll email you.

From Mystery Foto #9 B Solved:The 1905 Darracq Team Headquartered at the Hotel Glenwood, Glenwood Landing

I guess we’ve been through enough mystery photos that we’re beginning to repeat them! I’ll just copy and paste my answer from mystery photo 33 on Sept 17 2013…

I don’t know the painting, but as per your entry from the website, there’s two places the car could have been; either Riker’s farm, or in a garage on his Bristol, Connecticut depending on if the picture is pre, or post 1914.

  “Locomobile used “Old 16” extensively to promote its manufacturing prowess after the race, but as the novelty faded, it was placed in storage in a barn on Riker’s farm. Joseph Sessions, whose firm did much of the casting for the Locomobile engine, purchased the car in 1914. It was housed in a garage on his Bristol, Connecticut farm that was specially built to care for the car. There it was revered for 27 years and only driven by Sessions who occasionally took it to meets of the Veteran Motor Car Club.”

http://vanderbiltcupraces.com/cars/story/old_16_locomobile

Although I’ll add for this guess that the artwork looks like some sort of promo poster for Continental tires.
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_foto_friday_33_can_you_identify

From Mystery Friday Foto #9: Can You Identify This Old 16 Locomobile Photo?

I guess sometimes I’ll overthink things and pass right by the obvious! After scouring various websites trying to match the estate gates behind the cars in the photos, I’ve finally realized the simple answer. While sitting at a traffic light near my house, I glanced over to my left and lo and behold, there were Oheka Castle’s gates. The wrought iron gates are gone and the lights have been changed, but there’s no question they’re the gates from the photo. Makes pefect sense, Oheka is a few minutes distance from the Cantrell shop and what better place to photograph/display your product but the second largest residence in the country.
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From Howard Kroplick
Greg, good find (see above).

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part I

The first photo is a shipment of 1940 cab-chassis cars made at the Terrytown NY Chevrolet plant to use as platforms for station wagons and other commercial vehicles. These were also shipped to the Campbell body company. Another major supplier of Chevrolet GM approved woodies.

Hudson, Dodge and Studebaker also made units like this for body builders.

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part II

I have been looking for a photo of the old Meadowbrook Hospital to show my husband (he’s younger than me and only knows of it the way it is now). I have such fond memories of sitting under those trees with my grandmother and sister when I was a little girl. I think my mother and grandmother were taking turns visiting my great grandmother. I believe they were crab apple trees. It was so beautiful and peaceful there. We would read stories and have snacks, and watch the cars go by. I’m so happy to see this photo!

From Mystery Foto #76 Solved: An Aerial of Meadowbrook Hospital and East Meadow Circa 1951/1952

I’m just correcting myself. Within my comment, I stated that the building in this mystery photo was the original Queens Village RR Station. The RR Station is on the N/S of the tracks, this tavern on the S/S.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Approaching the LIRR Crossing in Queens

@Stevel- I thought the exact same thing about the gates in the first photo. (The second photo down of the Buick is also in front of the same gates) They do seem familiar, but I’ve been trying to identify them for a couple of days and I’ve been unable to match them so far. Being Cantrell was located in Huntington, I stated looking at the local estates and moved outwards from there. Still searching….
An incredible website resource about Gold Coast estates for yourself, or anyone interested, to check out, is Zach L’s blog; Old Long Island
http://www.oldlongisland.com/

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part I

The photo shows Charles Schmidt on his Packard Gray Wolf with no.16 during the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup race. He is just passing the railroad crossing at Springfield Boulevard in Queens, which was located at the most western part of the 1904 circuit. The future circuits of the VC races on Long Island would never extend that far to the west. He finished on a respectable 4th place, and as the 2nd American car (behind Lytle on his Pope-Toledo).

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Approaching the LIRR Crossing in Queens

-Identify the year of the Vanderbilt Cup Race in this photo
1904

-Identify the racer, its driver and the mechanician
1903 Packard Grey Wolf, #16 driven by Charles Schmidt, mechanician William McIldrid.  Finished 4th in the race. 

-Identify the location. What was unique about this section of the course?
Queens Village (known simply as Queens at the time).  Springfield Ave. (aka Creed Ave.) Railroad Crossing.  O’Conner’s Tavern located near Creed Ave. and Jericho Rd. (aka Jamaica Ave.)  Unique might have been the course took the racers over a ground level railroad crossing.  Hence the need for police officers near the crossing. 

Additional documentation being sent Howard.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Approaching the LIRR Crossing in Queens

Anyone know which estate gates those are in the first photo? They look so familiar. I have seen some of these cars at shows and the workmanship is awesome. So much more involved than the Ford Woodies. Great article,thanks.

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part I

OK, here I go. The photographer was looking south at Springfield Blvd/RR mainline during the 1904 VCR. The building s/o the tracks is the original Queens Village RR Station, built in 1871. When the station was rebuilt in 1924, the original station was relocated on Jamaica Ave and converted into a store. Charles Schimdt (Driver) and William Mcllrid (Mechanician) are traversing north across the tracks and soon to be heading east on Jamaica Ave/Jericho Tpke in their “Packard #16 “Gray Wolf”. If it was’nt for your website Howard, and Bob Andersens LIRR history website; I would’nt have any clue about this. Thankyou.

From Mystery Foto #8 Solved: The Packard Gray Wolf Approaching the LIRR Crossing in Queens

Tulip, Carnation, and so on reflect East Hinsdale’s transformation by John Lewis Childs into Floral Park and his huge horticultural enterprise there.

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Jericho Turnpike in Floral Park Looking Towards the LIRR Bridge

Ed Cantrell seen by the 1940 Chevy woodie was very interested in boats, too. He started a marine electrical shop when the body factory closed. I understand he gave the family archives of J.T.Cantrell Co to the Huntington Historical Society in recent years.

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part I

Thanks for the informative J.T. Cantrell presentation.  As a Huntington resident I’m always glad to see interesting Huntington history, especially when it relates to cars.

Ken

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part I

You should receive top honors down south Enjoy

From Chrysler's Chrysler Heading South in March to CCCA Meeting and Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance

This is so interesting.  In about 1972, I drove to Huntington Harbor to search for what was left of the JT Cantrell company.  I met JT’s son, who owned a marine electric company near the waterfront.  He was very nice, and explained that his father had dementia and was living in a nearby nursing home.  He recommended that I would probably not enjoy meeting him; that he was very ill.  We spoke for a while, and before I left, he gave me a souvenir: a copy of the Essex Terraplane woody photo you display here.  Thanks for the memories.

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part I

As stated in the article, Cantrell took over the T.F. Scudder shop on Main Street in Huntington.  However, that shop was not located at Green Street.  It was east of New York Avenue (Route 110).  It was replaced by the Bank of Huntington building, which is now Bank of America.  The carriage factory at Green Street was under different ownership.
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From Howard Kroplick

Robert, thanks for the correction.

From Long Island Auto Manufacturers & Body Builders #2: J.T. Cantrell & Company of Huntington Part I

This is the turf of my childhood…playing on the abandoned Creedmore Spur…icing through the edges of backyards as the spur tracked west, watching the bridge get dismantled as the roads got )relatively) leveled. I live four blocks from this intersection on King Street. Our street is a historic block for the town. Our (100 year old) house was owned by the “blacksmith” of the town who also functioned as the wrought iron fence builder for John Lewis Childs, the owner of the nursery that dominated the town.
The recent sign post on Emerson Ave (streets in FP are all named after flowers, trees and …poets!) and Jericho affirms the town’s position in the great heritage of the Vanderbilt race and parkway.

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Jericho Turnpike in Floral Park Looking Towards the LIRR Bridge