Vanderbilt Cup Races

Congratulations Howard !!

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I was at Purdue University in 1961 when Ford brought the Mustang I to the Mechanical Engineering building. A 4 cylinder mid engine design was great. It was low and sleek. In fact so low that it scraped the ramp as they brought it in the building. I was never a Ford guy, but I said that i would buy this car. Unfortunately, they came out with the final design and I was not interested at all.

From Exclusive Photos: The Mustang II Prototype Concept Car Making Its Debut at the Watkins Glen in 1963

The #16 is a Packard called Gray Fox and I think it is in the 1904 race. I also think the painting is the Packard Cormorant Silver Anniversary

From A Salute to the Mets & Mystery Foto #44 Solved: A Gift to George Robertson From Peter Helck

The piece is very similar to one of his works titled “Robertson Comes Through”, the #16 is obviously the Locomobile of George Robertson and mechanician Glenn Etheridge winning the 1908 race after the Chadwick broke.  The other car is the #4 Big-Six Chadwick of Willie Haupt with EA Lindquist as mechanician.  The other similar painting also has a sign reading “Choice lots and acreage-inquire at Hotel”.......so the location is possibly behind Krug’s Hotel, but near a hotel of some type.  Parking was $5 to see the race from your car. 

Since Helck first visited the 1906 Vanderbilt race perhaps this was his first commissioned, or sold piece of the Vanderbilt Cup by him, and perhaps it was given to Robertson for winning the race with an American auto…..which is all a guess.

From A Salute to the Mets & Mystery Foto #44 Solved: A Gift to George Robertson From Peter Helck

I think I’m wrong on what I said about the headlights not giving out the right light, but still don’t like the shape of the front of the car, after looking at some other pictures

From Exclusive Photos: The Mustang II Prototype Concept Car Making Its Debut at the Watkins Glen in 1963

Yes you’re right about that Frank and I really don’t like how the headlights are, they just don’t look right to me, the shape of them, it seems to me that they wouldn’t give out the right kind of light, because of there shape.

From Exclusive Photos: The Mustang II Prototype Concept Car Making Its Debut at the Watkins Glen in 1963

Phil and I are patiently waiting to know about those few things that we asked about,just curious,no rush.Might it be to jack up the car to change the tires?

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Those two ‘stangs are hot to handle, but still convinced that Mustang II’s front end had some influence in AMC’s Matador design of the ‘70s, though they’re indiscreetly different somehow.

From Exclusive Photos: The Mustang II Prototype Concept Car Making Its Debut at the Watkins Glen in 1963

Cool stuff Howard. Is that Grand Prix missing the PMD center rim attachment in the front?

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Who can we call to get a 1969 Grand Prix remake for today’s market ? Style with a capital S !!

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I’m going to like this a lot,being I have an interest in cars along with the rest of you guys.I knew about the 1953 corvette only having a white exterior,does include the interior too?

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Very Cool post.

Hunting for hidden Vanderbilt Parkway is a great thing. Thanks for the post!
Creedmoor section is legit—- good pics.

Definitely not Queens Cty Farm Museum, but rather Greem Meadow Farm - southern portion. It’s still pretty evident where road runs at that point. I dont know that that pic is, just neatly arranged random rocks it seems.

WORLD SERIES GAME ONE!!!! I still cant believe they are in it.

From Remnants of Long Island Motor Parkway Discovered in Queens

the red car is a 1964 Mercury

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Is that red one an Imperial?

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Whowee,who me?,I hope I can keep it up

From Mystery Foto #43 Solved: The Start of the 1909 Wheatley Sweepstakes

The LIMP ROW did not run through any part of the Queens County Farm Museum, but along the southern border of Green Meadow Farm’s parking lot, which is directly across Little Neck Parkway from 74th Ave.

From Remnants of Long Island Motor Parkway Discovered in Queens

Identify the race cars and the drivers
#32 - Marmon driven by Ray Harroun
#31 - Marion driven by A. Monson
#34 (possibly the one behind #32 by looking at another photo found elsewhere) - Moon driven by Phillip Wells
#33 - (possibly the one behind #31 as only 4 cars entered the race) - Columbia driven by W.R. Wilcox

Identify the race in which these drivers were competing
1909 Wheatley Hills Sweepstake

What was the greatest accomplishment among these drivers?
The winner of the Wheatley Hills Sweepstake, Ray Harroun, also was the first Indy 500 winner two years later in 1911.

Identify one or more of the officials
William Vanderbilt Jr. and possibly one or more of these other 1909 race officials :
Elbert H. Gary, Colgate Hoyt, Harry Paine Whitney, William P. Hamilton, Henry Sanderson, Mortimer Shiff, H. Hollins, Dave Morris and Henry Anderson.

From Mystery Foto #43 Solved: The Start of the 1909 Wheatley Sweepstakes

It appears to be the S/F line area of the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race.

The #31 should be Disbrow in a National, starting 29th and Belcher in the #32 in a Knox starting 30th.

As far as accomplishments, Disbrow in 1911 won the last Philadelphia Fairmount Park race also in a National and if I recall reworked the Pope-Hartford into the Pope Hummer…..then left.

Belcher had the less stellar career of the two, but both competed in the 1911 Indy 500.

Officials…...I’m guessing that’s Willie K at the LF tire of the #32.

From Mystery Foto #43 Solved: The Start of the 1909 Wheatley Sweepstakes

Ok Howard,but what’s are,I think are two objects on the running board?,is it part of the car?,do they belong there,obviously they do,if you have them there,but never displayed them,that I know of and are only for display,not permanent. Thanks in advance for your answer

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-Identify the race cars and the drivers
#32 Marmon driven by Ray Harroun. Finished 1st completing all 15 laps.
#31 Marion driven by A. Monsen. Finished 3rd completing 8 laps.

-Identify the race in which these drivers were competing
1909 Wheatley Hills Sweepstakes

-What was the greatest acomplishment among these drivers?
Ray Harroun was the winner of the first Indy 500 Race driving a Marmon to victory in 1911.

-Identify one or more of the officials
The person looking down at the ground looks to be A.R. Pardington.

From Mystery Foto #43 Solved: The Start of the 1909 Wheatley Sweepstakes