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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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This is truly amazing; now I won’t have to go to Hershey or Michigan or anywhere else to see one. You truly deserve this this car. Congratulations.
From From Scottsdale to Roslyn: The Journey of Tucker 1044
The photo ‘The Petit Annex building circa 1931’ is not correct, the car parked in the front is a 1935 Ford rumble seat coupe. The photo made at or later than 1935.
From Femenias' Findings:Finding Petit Trianon, the Annex & the Petit Trianon's Lake Stairway Updated 3/12
Congratulations Howard ! Enjoy !
From From Scottsdale to Roslyn: The Journey of Tucker 1044
OK. I figured since the crowd on the bridge was viewing North at present day Rte. 107, then the mound would be to the NorthEast. And like you said, Frank; there wasn’t enough development yet to block anything in the distance. We all exchange more information with these comments than we do in person LOL. It’s all good.
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A View of #54 Lancia Crashing at the Massapequa-Hicksville Road Turn in 1910
From Richard Krause:
From the general overall appearance of the roadways, I suspect the “Rounded area,” of this photo, could be of the original portion of Hempstead Turnpike and the south section of Broadway. in what is now Bethpage? Originally “Central park” . The completely wooded portion of property ( on the upper right hand side of this photo, might be? Of what we now know to be the Bethpage state golf course. this is a wonderful photo, and in studying the picture. I find it so much fun, to guess at, where it might be! You newsletter is an adventure all in itself! And I suspect I am far from alone in enjoying the wonders of “Vanderbiltcup.com” News letter! Please keep up what you do, for not only is this educational, but is so much fun!
From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A Long Island Motor Parkway Aerial Near Pinelawn Cemetery Circa 1928-1930
Nice story, Howard. One we haven’t seen before. I had a good friend of some 70 years, passed on recently; he was John Robertson Martin. His middle name came from a grandfather he said was a Lindbergh backer from St. Louis. (Hence the name of the plane). Now I have to do some research to find out if it was the same Robertson. Thanks, he would have appreciated the story,
Earl
From Helck Family Collection: George Robertson's Eyewitness Account of Lindbergh's Journey to History
Identify the location of this aerial: Wyandanch, Wheatley Heights, Colonial Springs Road
From my website
http://www.freewebs.com/limparkway/colonialspringsrdupdate.htm
Identify the Motor Parkway bridges: Colonial Springs Road, Little East Neck, Pinelawn Road, Ruland Road
What is the year of the aerial. Provide a rationale.: 1928 Before Pinelawn National Cemetary purchased the property (also date mentioned in an earlier blog)
What other significant landmark is in the aerial? Pinelawn Cemetery, Pinelawn LIRR station
From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A Long Island Motor Parkway Aerial Near Pinelawn Cemetery Circa 1928-1930
Great job Frank, Brian, Dave and all others contributing to these posts. Wonder if the # here will overtake the Mayan Ruins posts from a few weeks back. Glad to see interest in things old as I’m getting there soon enough!
From Femenias' Findings:Finding Petit Trianon, the Annex & the Petit Trianon's Lake Stairway Updated 3/12
Wisely purchased. Can’t wait to see its Spring debut.
From From Scottsdale to Roslyn: The Journey of Tucker 1044
Starting in the Upper Left-Hand Corner, coming from the LIMP bridge Rd over Ruland Rd (just out of sight in this foto) is the LIMP crossing over Pinelawn Rd slightly below the confluence of Ruland Rd, Pinelawn Rd, Duryea Rd, Old Baylis Rd & Colonial Springs Rd, with the LIMP continuing some distance along but at a slightly higher elevation with Colonial Springs Rd. Pinelawn Rd then continuing thru the circle, the center of which crosses with the LIRR, parallel to which is the then continuation of Conklin Street, this location being that of Pinelawn Cemetery, also a stop on the LIRR. As to approximate year, that would be the early thirties inasmuch as Republic Aviation is yet appear in the foto.
If I am correct, then that is because in the early fifties we would bicycle on the then closed LIMP—from the LIMP bridge crossing Route 110 to bit along the LIMP where it parallels Colonial Springs Rd to visit a friend of my parents then living on Colonial Springs Rd as there was a path leading from the LIMP down to their house on Colonial Springs Rd. But, if I am wrong then it is age and memory that have merely played a trick on this older senior in taking her back to an earlier time long since gone.
From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A Long Island Motor Parkway Aerial Near Pinelawn Cemetery Circa 1928-1930
Actual videos of Lindbergh’s flight—very impressive.
Ken
From Helck Family Collection: George Robertson's Eyewitness Account of Lindbergh's Journey to History
Wow! More and more information—keep up the good work.
Ken
From Femenias' Findings:Finding Petit Trianon, the Annex & the Petit Trianon's Lake Stairway Updated 3/12
YOU have impeccable taste in automobiles.
From From Scottsdale to Roslyn: The Journey of Tucker 1044
Howard you’ve certainly impressed us all with this acquisition. One of the most collectible iconic automobiles of all time. Mazeltov and happy driving.
From From Scottsdale to Roslyn: The Journey of Tucker 1044
Those ARE guardrail posts as noted by Brian. This is the first time I’ve heard of a parkway bridge going over Rosevale Av (it seems logical as Willie K wanted to avoid all grade crossings). But if true, these posts may have been delivered to the bridge site that was never built, right down the block of DeStefani’s house (built 1928), later to be used for? Monumental purposes? How did it serve the DeStefani family? The puzzle continues.
From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure IV: The Eastern Terminus of the Motor Parkway
Brian - the Winding Rd fill is 2.7 miles from the mystery photo, more reasonable than Mt. Corona’s 18mi distance. And it still stands tall at ~100 feet. But neither fill lines slightly west of the Massapequa/Hicksville Rd bridge (Rt. 107) as seen in the mystery photo. Back then, one could see far distances as the view was unobstructed and the island still undeveloped. This mound is a tough one.
From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A View of #54 Lancia Crashing at the Massapequa-Hicksville Road Turn in 1910
Great find Brian - the Suffolk website is an amazing tool loaded with information. When I first encountered the lined paths near the lake they appeared as proposed roadways, yet mysteriously they’re still labeled today as Beach Rd, and the shorter - due east path, East Dr.) Viewing the website, it’s now clear they serve as zoning boundaries. As Harold indicated, the beach behind the Inn does not belong to the new homeowners (who unwittingly and illegally dumped the concrete walkway into the lake). The Inn’s beach/lake section north of East Dr (2.88 acres total) belongs to the County of Suffolk. The remaining beach/lake section south of East Dr. - and then much more (21.61 acres total), belongs to The Town of Islip. The Petit Trianon’s beach now has two owners. Who would’ve known the future of that beautiful Inn.
From Femenias' Findings:Finding Petit Trianon, the Annex & the Petit Trianon's Lake Stairway Updated 3/12
Frank… As always, you do a superb job re-aligning the old and new aerials/locations of LIMP, etc. Found myself viewing the Basemap Gallery on the “gis3.suffolkcountygov/gisviewer/” of this area. Up until the 2001 aerials of this area, #75, 85, and 95 homes weren’t built yet; it was all pretty much woods. So, these homes were built sometime between 2001 and 2004. As you zoom in to this area, there’s a “lined path” extending between the east ends of North and South Dr. And pretty much smack in the middle of this “lined path”, there’s another “lined path” due east to the lake. If Lake Dr. didn’t deadend at Washington Ave, it would head east directly to the “lined path” to the lake. These 2 “lined paths” don’t appear as actual roads on the aerials. These paths are just outside the property boundary of #95 North Dr. ( Like Harold was stating, the residents in this locale don’t own the “lined path” areas ). I know this blog is figured out already, but I felt compelled to express further.
From Femenias' Findings:Finding Petit Trianon, the Annex & the Petit Trianon's Lake Stairway Updated 3/12
Hi Art and anyone who are fans of ‘The Curse of Oak Island” series on the History Channel. The latest episode has Rick Lagina and Doug Crowell meeting up with Zena Halpern ( at her residence in Roslyn, NY ). She’s a writer/historian who researches the presence of the Knight Templars in Nova Scotia and nearby Oak Island. I think it’s neat that their research led them to our Long Island!
From The Second 2016 Kleiner Tour of the Long Island Motor Parkway
1928 aerial over Wyandanch
Circular road area became Pinelawn in 1935.
Little East Nexk road bridge visible
From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: A Long Island Motor Parkway Aerial Near Pinelawn Cemetery Circa 1928-1930
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