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Thanks for posting the additional photos of the mystery apparatus, Dave. Still don’t know what it is.

* It was definitely bolted vertically at the base. I now see there’s not drilled out holes, but 4 openings that would allow for maneuvering. The numbers are maybe like degrees, they seem to be in line with the openings.

* With the rectangular cutout at the bottom, whatever bar that was inserted was formed with a rectangular end. Seeing this ensures the bar is secured, the bolts would be tightened to the bar as an extra measure.

* Quoting Frank, the top rounded piece is designed to be adjusted ( You’d probably have to let this contraption sit in a bucket of WD-40 for a week to get any parts moving again )

Whatever this is, it appears heavy duty. If your on Facebook, post it so the whole world can see. Someone knows what it’s purpose is/was.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Howard,
Next time you communicate with the Eastman House ask about the provenance of their copy of The Stain.  I could be wrong, but I believe the copy that they have is the only known copy, and was the one found in Australia.
Gary

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

The first item you found definitely looks like a disposable propane tank. The other item looks like it could be a part from a well drilling rig being you found it near the water station. Those numbers 0-40 could be degrees of angle. The round flange with slotted holes meant it could be rotated on it’s mounting. The “cup” with the two set screws meant a large diameter steel pipe went in it. I believe there is a piece missing though. That part would have serrations to match the serrations on the piece you have. The bolt in the middle would have held them together, being able to adjust another angle.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

New pictures of object #2 are posted above. There are numerical inscriptions on there. Hoping someone can figure this out!

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Nobody has commented on whether or not this “ramp” leading to the water station was perhaps a LIMP enter/exit ramp? I defer to the masters Howard and Al for some input? Is it possible? It just seems that this “ramp” is aligned perfectly with the existing posts which I guess is possible if the town people built the road and they just maintained the posts and left them alone? Or was this perhaps an entry or exit ramp?
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Howard Kroplick:

Dave, it is likely this road was built after the Motor Parkway closed in 1938 in order to reach the pump station. The road was built within the right-of-way of the Motor Parkway with the posts marking the northern boundary,

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

I just sent Howard some more detailed pics of object #2. There are numerical inscriptions on there: 0, 10, 20, 30, 40 at two locations in two directions each. Maybe this will help someone recognize it.

Brian—no metal detector. Not that crazy yet! I do plan to do that when I retire one day. I have several Gold Coast locations in mind to detect.

When we were digging just east of the house in the first location, we simply dug these items up. We sort of felt item #1 was nothing special, a glorified can of sorts, we left that one there on site. But item #2 was pretty unique so we took that one with hopes that it was unique in some LIMP way. It sort of looked like a trophy when we pulled it out!

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Not sure about both artifacts but the first one does resemble a 1lb propane tank in comparison to Sammy’s hand size. The second with the large set bolts as Brian noted, is to accommodate and lock a large pole/rod, that also has an adjustable gear to angle into any position as needed, also with the holed base to mount onto a pole. The closest I can come to resemblance is an over sized, adjustable flag pole bracket. Unlikely though.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

My wife grew up in Williston Park on Yale St., and the ROW was behind her back yard (also behind her aunt’s, uncle’s and great-grandmother’s house over near Sigsbee Avenue).  At that time (late 1940s-1950s), the bridge over the LIRR was still intact, and she used to use it to go visit friends in East Williston.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Interesting adventure.  Funny that when I delivered mail on Robbins Lane never thought about the east side of Roslyn Rd.  I also think that second remnant could be connected to a gate.  Good stuff.  Bob

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

I can’t help but wonder how the Stickler/Eilerstsen marriage worked out. She being solidly grounded with Colgate and he coming back from the South Pacific perhaps chasing a dream for Marjorie and him with Tucker. 

From Tucker Dealerships on Long Island in 1948 Updated: 2/20/17

What role did the Motor Parkway play in the career of Theda Bara, one of the most popular film stars of her era?  Theda Bara, then Theodosia (Goodman) DeCoppett in 1914 portrayed a gang moll in the Frank Powell directed “The Stain”.  Filming was done near Lake Ronkonkoma so I would assume the Motor Parkway was used by the crew to get there. 

Hint: Billed under the name Theodosia DeCoppett, Theda Bara made her film debut as an extra in 1914.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

Eric—after the sump heading east there is one house and then the golf course. Using Bing Maps birds eye I can see the golf cart path there but it doesn’t appear to have the extensions or be very wide. Do you have pics you can send? We might have to investigate this one.

Brian—both of the relics were found on the elevated LIMP just east of the house on Roslyn road, very deep in the weeds. I’m sure these things haven’t been touched in a very long time. There was no house at this location, ever. Or any of the portion of LIMP that is related to this post.

Sam III—-two years ago Sam (mine) and I were at this location and one of the homeowners came out and met us as well. He was quite nice however and we talked history for a bit. He knew nothing of the history of his backyard, if it is in fact his land. He didn’t discuss that, more interested in what the heck we were doing! It is fenced in on both sides and elevated. Nobody goes in here. Even the kids haven’t figured this one out yet, no beer cans were observed.

Nature has taken this great spot over but it is all there to recover should that ever be an option.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Deeply buried? I thought you and Sam just came across these objects. Metal detecting, that’s dedication. You recall my email. With those 2 bolts on the side, and the round shape; I’m envisioning a pipe entering the top. And then tightening the bolts enough to secure a pipe. Does the base have holes? If so, then bolts likely secured the base to whatever structure. The one side has a cogwheel? The opposite side has like a half cog. The cogs obviously served a purpose. I’ll try my best, but hoping more experienced eyes here can help identify.    BDM

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Great job as suburban explorers. You must be very lucky. Almost every time I’ve been to that area I get yelled at by somebody: cop, adjacent property owner, or random dog walker.

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

Film director Frank Powell, while working for Pathe Freres, was filming “The Stain”, most of which was being shot at a rented studio in Fort Lee, NJ. The “on location” or exterior shots for the film were done at the Petit Trianon, the eastern terminus of the LIMP. Although she had done some stage work, “The Stain” was Theda Bara’s (real name Theodosia Goodman) first film. She had been using the stage name Theodosia DeCoppett at the time.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

Howard,
I grew up in West Hempstead.  I remember, on Fulton Ave. in Hempstead, there was a building that was supposed to be a Tucker dealership.  The Tucker sign was already mounted on the building’s facade.  To my knowledge, they never obtained a Tucker automobile.  I believe the sign was a neon sign, but I’m not sure.
I wish I could give you more info, but that’s as far as my memory goes.
Rog

From Tucker Dealerships on Long Island in 1948 Updated: 2/20/17

Dave and Sammy were incredibly persistent in uncovering remnants of the LIMP.  Congrats to them both.
Rog

From Sam & Dave's Excellent "Lost" Motor Parkway Adventure V: The Motor Parkway East of Roslyn Road

“The Stain”, shot in :Lake Ronkonkoma - I assume there is a scene (possibly a chase) going in or out on LI on the LIMP, or at Petit Trianon,  but can’t find a print.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

The only thing I could find was her debut movie ‘The Stain’ in 1914 was filmed in and around Lake Ronkonkoma, most likely on portions of the LIMP and Petit Trianon.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Theda Bara's Film Debut in "The Stain" Filmed at Petit Trianon

1179 County Road 58, Riverhead - Sleepy’s today - <http://sbiii.com/autopix /tuckeriv.jpg> - whatcha t’ink?  Sam, III

From Tucker Dealerships on Long Island in 1948 Updated: 2/20/17