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Wow, what a find!!!  I saw the article in today’s Newsday Life section and was fascinated by what was found.  A true treasure trove.  It really went to the most qualified person to preserve all those maps and photos.  We know that Howard will take excellent care of them.  Way to go Howard!!!

Rog

From Newsday LI Life Cover Article: "Treasure box’ sheds light on history of Motor Parkway

-William believes a historic marker is long overdue for a building in this aerial (courtesy of the Cradle of Aviation). What is the building? What is its location? Why is it historic?
Lindbergh’s Hangar that the Spirit Of St. Louis stayed in the night before his transatlantic flight. Located along Old Country Road near the current Roosevelt Field entrance.

-Identify the airplanes
Keystone B-5 bombers

-Identify the major roads and parkway in this Mystery Foto
The intersection of Glen Cove Rd/Clinton and Old Country Road bottom left corner. The LIMP and Stewart in the upper right.

-What year was this aerial taken?
1931

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

I stumbled onto this photo and was intrigued by the airplanes. So after a lot of googling I can answer some of the questions.

I am not sure about the building. I think all of the buildings in the photo are gone as is Roosevelt Field and Curtis Field. This is now shopping malls and subdivisions. But somewhere in this photo is the hangar where Charles Lindberg’s Spirit of St. Louis spent the night before he took of for the historic solo trans-Atlantic flight. That’s my best guess - seems to deserve a marker.

The airplanes are Keystone Bombers - possibly B-4’s.

Clinton Road at the bottom - Old Country Road at the left - the Long Island Motor Parkway upper right. The parkway is now gone - but the other roads are still there.

Finally found it - 1931.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

Mitchell Field.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

Mystery Foto #14… I want to believe that the building Moyers is referring to is the Curtiss Engineering Corp plant built in 1918 on Clinton road in lower foreground. Historic because it was the world’s first facility dedicated to aviation research and development. The planes are Keystone light bombers. Some of the roads here are Clinton Road across the bottom of photo. Old Country road at the lower left corner. I believe that Motor Parkway shows in the upper right side. Photo taken in 1931.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

I would call that discovery the “Frosting on the Cake”
you must have been thrilled when this was discovered
Keep up the good work,  Jerry
PS green

From Newsday LI Life Cover Article: "Treasure box’ sheds light on history of Motor Parkway

FWhat a find
I have a map of old Farmingdale If you are interested

From Newsday LI Life Cover Article: "Treasure box’ sheds light on history of Motor Parkway

What a day! and how lucky to find these photos!  Thx for sharing, Jeffrey H. Sado NYC / Bourne relative

From Frederick Gilbert Bourne- President of Singer Sewing Machine & a Long Island Motor Parkway Director

Hi again Robert - When playing by the walls in the fiftys, while they were still 8 ft. high, do you recall a dark sign/plaque affixed on the top edge of one of the walls? If so, do you remember what the plaque read?, year? The sign once fixed to the wall was missing today.

From Sam & Dave’s Excellent Lost Motor Parkway Adventure III: The "Mayan Ruins" in Garden City

For me, the building is one of the Dade Bros. buildings in lower left, where I worked ca. 1957/8, but you probably mean the surviving hangar on Old Country Road.  Keystone B-3/4/5/6 Bombers (I’d opt for B-6 for their high numbers) over Roosevelt Flying Field with Clinton Road at right front, Old Country Road at left front, and the LIMP diagonally across the upper right in front of Stewart Avenue.  The Keystone B-6 came out between August 1931 and January 1932 and was assigned to nearby Mitchel Field (at far upper right, where they are heading), so I’d guess 1932.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

As always; great and thanks.  Takes me back to when I first slogged and forced m,y way through the more over-grown areas which I, and later Al and Howard and a few others (and then LI Parks), cleared. Slowly but surely you can see how it looked “before” as I restore more and more of my old website.  Keep it up!  The 71-year older Sam (III)

From Sam & Dave's "Excellent Motor Parkway Hike" I: Stewart Avenue to Deadman's Curve, Bethpage

“Pitter-patter”, indeed!  Sam, III

From Newsday LI Life Cover Article: "Treasure box’ sheds light on history of Motor Parkway

Fantastic find and outcome! I’ll be getting my hard copy soon.

From Newsday LI Life Cover Article: "Treasure box’ sheds light on history of Motor Parkway

Hi Robert - Fantastic story about growing up near the Mayan Ruin walls in Garden City. Just today a group of LIMPPS members met this morning by the walls. With permission, we witnessed the entire Russell Rd wall has been reduced to approx 3 ft. In height. The Pell Terr wall now stands half at 8 ft., the other half at 3 ft. It must have been some fun back then with the huge structures standing tall out of the ground!

From Sam & Dave’s Excellent Lost Motor Parkway Adventure III: The "Mayan Ruins" in Garden City

Is the photo CURTIS FIELD?

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

What was the actual physical address of Joe Ida’s Tucker dealership in Yonkers, NY?
____________________________________________________________
Howard Kroplick
207 S. Broadway, Yonkers, NY

From Documenting 1947 New York Region Tucker Sales and Dealerships

Hi all
  All I can get out of this is,I see Roosevelt,WACO and Air Associates on the buildings,so the only thing I can think of is that it’s an airport in Roosevelt,where I don’t know,I don’t think it’s Mitchell Field,that’s in East Meadow right?or is it? Maybe I can get back to this later on,gotta go now.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

I don’t know the building but the photo is from 1931 showing Keystone Army bombers from distant Mitchel flying over Roosevelt Field with Old Country Road diagonally on left, and Clinton Road horizontally across the bottom. The LIMP and Stewart Avenue are in the middle of the picture with a southeast view.  Mr. Moyers’ dad was the former publisher at Newsday which was located on Stewart Avenue but that building was not there in 1931.

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)

Great job Sam and Dave.
I grew up at 32 Pell Terrace in G.C.  The former LIMP was in our neighborhoods’ back yards.
We played army and ‘cowboys and Indians’ on these ‘walls’ which were next door behind 30 Pell Terrace and a house on Russell Road.
At that time in the mid ‘50’s, the top of the west wall was about 9 foot high and the east wall about 6 foot to the top.  As I recall, the lower walkable portions of the walls were about 30 inches below the tops and about 12-16
inches wide.
We also road our bikes north to Old Country Road and further north to near E.J. Korvettes on long stretches of the former LIMP The bridge over the LIRR line running through Mineola was an interesting place to watch the trains from especially the last of the steam engines.
We also used to ride our bikes and sleds down the hills on the east and west sides of Clinton Road where a former bridge carrying the LIMP had been.  Riding our bikes on the abandoned roadway east of Clinton Road was a great shortcut to our Little League ball fields behind Stewart Elementary School.
It was a great place to grow up as a kid in the 1950’s.

From Sam & Dave’s Excellent Lost Motor Parkway Adventure III: The "Mayan Ruins" in Garden City

Great spread of photos and information here!

From Mystery Foto #15 Solved: The Historic Hangar 16 at Curtiss Field (Circa 1931)