Vanderbilt Cup Races

i had this alco was used in my getting married in san diego my age then was 25 i am 69 now this car was owned by jack helgren in lemon grove ca.    to make the alco able to be used the valves and valve cages needed to be rebuilt . their was 25 antique cars at my weding in san diego at organ pavilon     what made me love alco cars in the caravan after weding going to the after get to geather         the alco with 4 gears foward left all of the others way behind     im life member of Hoersless   Carrage of   San diego

From In Search of Alcos: #12 1912 Alco 4-Cylinder Touring Car Being Sold on eBay

That opened in 1946 and yes, I believe it is in the aerial, on the left side of Old Country road, across the street from the last hangar on the right side of OCR. see attached file. Enjoyed many great breakfasts there in the 60s and 70s btw.

From Friday Mystery Foto #4 Solved: Newly Discovered 1953 Drennan Aerials of Roosevelt Field

Wonderful story Walt Thanks for sharing it We wonder if this car would have passed the CAFE requirements of today?

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: "The 1913 Long Island Economy Run" by Walt Gosden

From left to right we have: Willie K. (with the alligator); Leland Sterry; Willie K.‘s wife Virginia (in the wicker rolling chair); Lawrence Waterbury; and Frederic Sterry. Waterbury was a cousin of President Teddy Roosevelt. Leland and Fred Sterry were brothers who were managers of The Breakers and Royal Poinciana hotels respectively in Palm Springs, Florida. The photo was taken during a winter 1907 vacation at The Breakers in Palm Springs.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Vanderbilts on Vacation

Bob
Yes it was a very flat route and few curves, plus the oiled pounded flat surface made a very smooth road (kind of unheard of at the time) as you mention, no stops were made. This was the lightest car Franklin had on offer chassis wise - no radiator so much lighter weight. Their factory motto at the time was ” riding like gliding”. The car is basically 2 bucket seats on the chassis, even fenders were minimal and of aluminum.
Walt

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: "The 1913 Long Island Economy Run" by Walt Gosden

83.5 miles on a gallon of gas?  Could this have been a bit of exaggeration or perhaps over promotion.  Unless the vehicle was so light, the route so flat, no stops were made, etc.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: "The 1913 Long Island Economy Run" by Walt Gosden

Is Thomas’ Ham & Eggery in the photo somewhere? When did that open?

From Friday Mystery Foto #4 Solved: Newly Discovered 1953 Drennan Aerials of Roosevelt Field

Back in December 2018 my article about the Tuckers was published by Collectible Automobile. It’s uploaded below. I believe it won some awards.

From Tucker 1013 Comes to life with help from Penn College and Ty Tucker

Courtesy of vanderbiltcupraces of May 27, 2009
Seated: Virginia “Birdie” Fair Vanderbilt, wife of Willie K.
I to r: Willie K. Vanderbilt, Jr.; Leland Sterry, Manager, The Breakers Hotel
Lawrence Waterbury, a cousin of President Teddy Roosevelt (in the driver’s seat)
Fred Sterry, Leland’s brother, manager of the Royal Poinciana Hotel
Winter, 1907
Palm Beach, FL

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Vanderbilts on Vacation

Hi Greg. Maybe you can help me. I have photo dated 1908 Briarcliff Road race. It’s 22x20 inches. I know it’s authentic but some confusion as to the drivers. The writing are what I"ve seen on the internet.
I collect these type photos. Maybe you can help me

From Gregg D. Merksamer: "Remembering the 1908 Briarcliff Trophy Race"

Tom Padilla, The Motor Parkway had its own motorcycle police force. First appeared around 1925. Bt 1930 the Parkway Police had 3 motorcycles and one Ford sedan. Phased out by the late 1930’s. Regarding speed limits, when the Parkway first opened there were no speed limits. As more autos were using the Parkway, speed limits that varied from 30 to 40 MPH were introduced. Violators were escorted of the Parkway and their toll tickets confiscated.

From Kleiner's Korner: December, 1924 - Crime Scene: The Motor Parkway

Hello,
I saw these signs for sale. Was Meadowbrook raceway located where Roosevelt Raceway was built? I imagine it was a horse track.
Great website. I have spent many hours on it over the years researching Locomobile Ol’ 16.

From Mystery Foto #1 Solved: 1932 Aerial of the Meadow Brook Hunt Club from the SMU Ritchie Collection

Thanks Gary and Tom.  Interesting stuff!
Here are some links with more info. on policing of The Motor Parkway.  And a summary by Al Velocci.

“At the beginning the Parkway had no speed limits, didn’t ask if you had a driver’s license, didn’t really care if the vehicle was properly registered. A speed limit of 40 MPH was first put in place in 1913.  Notices of such were placed on signs leading to Parkway entrances, on brochures and on flyers given to motorists on entering the Parkway. Problem was there wasn’t any way to enforce the speed limit, that is until 1924 when the Parkway established the Police Force, by the way, a year before Nassau County established theirs. No tickets were issued of course, speeders of less than 50 MPH were given warnings, those above that figure were escorted off the Parkway.”

https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/vanderbiltcupraces.com_exclusive_thomas_j._zinzi_the_first_motor_parkway_po

https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/do_not_post_kleiners_korner_a_day_in_the_life_of_motor_parkway_officers_zinze_and_ericson

https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_27_policing_the_motor_parkway

From Kleiner's Korner: December, 1924 - Crime Scene: The Motor Parkway

I’ve often wondered what, if any, law enforcement—say police motorcycles—ever were allowed to patrol the Motor Parkway? Even, let’s say, to look for any stranded motorists who might need to be towed. Or, were patrols by local law enforcement generally not allowed on the “private roadway”? Was there a speed limit on the LIMP? Or only on the local roads? This post is wonderful and just begs more questions. It is right out of The Great Gatsby !

From Kleiner's Korner: December, 1924 - Crime Scene: The Motor Parkway

I happened to record a show on Motor Trend Network about a 39 futureliner.  Was this the one in the show?  thnaks.  Bob

From The 1939 GM Futurliner: Automotive history being restored by Rob Ida

Race car driver is Eddie Rickenbacker
Mechanician is Pete Henderson

Rickenbacker served as Manager of the Dusenberg Racing Team and drove a Duesenberg race car in the Indy 500 in 1914
Race is the 1916 Harvest Auto Racing Classic
Rickenbacker served as the Mechanician for Lee Frayer in the1906 American Trial Race for the Vanderbilt cup race, the 1915 Vanderbilt cup race in San Francisco and in the 1916 Vcup race

From Friday Mystery Foto #5 Solved: Driver Eddie Rickenbacker and His Mechanician Pete Henderson

great research .thanks from a local

From Kleiner's Korner: December, 1924 - Crime Scene: The Motor Parkway

That’s Eddie Rickenbacker driving with mechanician Pete Henderson in a Maxwell at the 1915 Vanderbilt Cup race in California. Rickenbacker was the mechanician in the number 8 Frayer-Miller racer for the 1906 American Elimination race to qualify for the subsequent Vanderbilt Cup race. Rickenbacker also drove the #42 Duesenberg in the 1914 Indy 500 and finished 10th.

From Friday Mystery Foto #5 Solved: Driver Eddie Rickenbacker and His Mechanician Pete Henderson

This was fascinating! Can’t wait to see the restored Futurliner and to learn more about it.

From The 1939 GM Futurliner: Automotive history being restored by Rob Ida

The passenger in the car is not Carroll M Oelsner(wife of John w Oelsner) my mom and the Conan is not Carol Oelsner wife of Warren “Jim” Oelsner.

From Mystery Auto #28 Solved: 1925 Bugatti Type 35 Owned by Wallace Bird and Henry Austin Clark, Jr.