Vanderbilt Cup Races

This theory has been in the back of my mind ever since Howard was wondering, and now Frank. I can definitely envision a proposed road angling from the NE, following the unfinished bridge; and merging with Transverse Rd. Wish I could make out the years that you see, Frank; on the sign/plaque that’s mounted on the west abutment. Year 1917 would be the right time period. Your mapping is excellent as usual, Frank.

Remember Mr. Bellmer stating that Transverse Rd. was carved out specifically for the Base Hospital ( presumably Hospital Rd. as well ). You have access from Washington Ave., and I’m guessing that Hospital Rd. connected with Clinton Rd. or Stewart Ave.

Howard…You have a Garden City Company Survey Map of a proposed subdivision on the 9/28/2010 Blog:  Part 1: The Motor Parkway “Mayan Ruins”. The survey displays a convincing planned road that curves south from Clinton Rd, then west across the LIMP; following the unfinished “Mayan Ruins” overpass. Do you happen to know the year of this survey map?    Brian

From Femenias Findings: Exploring the Link Between Camp Mills and the "Mayan Ruins" Motor Parkway Bridge

Judi T.
I think the mystery photo is on Old Jericho Turnpike right bear Jericho HS

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: The Lakeville Hotel on the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses

Update #2: Lee Chambers has added a photo.

From Update2:Mystery Foto #29 Solved:A 1936 Aerial of Mitchel Field,Roosevelt Raceway & the Motor Parkway

Thanks, Art.  I recognize the map of the radio towers at Mitchel, though it appears to be sometime after the photos of 1936.  I believe those were the towers located at the Western end of the Base just West of Wheeler Ave. 

A small brick building adjacent to the gas station is where the radio communications room was located.  From here, planes still at some distance away were given instructions on landing prior to contacting the air traffic control tower. 

The towers were located in the field between the gas station and the building that today still serves as the Navy Commissary, near where the coal silos once stood next to the spur of the railroad tracks that lead to the flight line (where the Ringling Brothers Circus used to unload from). 

As for the station at Roosevelt Field, the article mentions the R-34 Dirigible that visited from England at the time.  I do not know if that experimental station was ever granted a permanent license thereafter.

From Update2:Mystery Foto #29 Solved:A 1936 Aerial of Mitchel Field,Roosevelt Raceway & the Motor Parkway

Update #1: Art Kleiner added new images and documentation.

From Update2:Mystery Foto #29 Solved:A 1936 Aerial of Mitchel Field,Roosevelt Raceway & the Motor Parkway

Looks somewhat like the old Lakeville Hotel on Lakeville Rd. And I.U. Willetts Rd. In Lake Success looking northwest. The 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races passed in front of this hotel.  It was later known as the Elverton Inn and the Red Lion Inn. The hotel burned down in the 1930s.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: The Lakeville Hotel on the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses

Thanks for the info on the close-ups, Lee.  Having an interest in radio, I’ll be sure to do some research into the antenna.  But so far I’ve found an experimental aeronautical radio station with call letter, W2XCV, being licensed to Roosevelt Field, Inc. (Mineola) with listings in govt. publications in 1927 and 1930.  Not certain if these are related to the tower you point out.  Also, there are radio antennas shown on a previously documented map of Mitchel Field on Howard’s blog and elsewhere.
I’m sending Howard some pics and docs which I’m hoping he’ll post here to add to the discussion.  More to come, hopefully.

From Update2:Mystery Foto #29 Solved:A 1936 Aerial of Mitchel Field,Roosevelt Raceway & the Motor Parkway

Describe the location of this Foto and the orientation of the photograph:
Willits Road, Lakeville Road in Lake Success (Lakeville).  North of today’s LIE. Looking north

Associate this Foto with the Vanderbilt Cup Race(s) including its name when the Foto was taken:
Lakeville Hotel - was a viewing spot for the 1905 and 1906 Cup Races

What other names were later used for the building? Elverton Inn, Red Lion Inn

Is this building still standing? If not, when was it taken down?  Building burned in 1927, however other entries onto the blog have it still in business in 1930s.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: The Lakeville Hotel on the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses

Best view of the twin bridges to date. Thanks Richard! Can’t get enough of this aerial.

Lee - Amazing observation. I missed the (main road to Stewart Ave), yet it’s clearly in view. Fantastic work!

From Update2:Mystery Foto #29 Solved:A 1936 Aerial of Mitchel Field,Roosevelt Raceway & the Motor Parkway

Mystery Foto #30…. This building, The Lakeville Inn back in the day, was located at the North East corner of the intersection of Lakeville Road and I.U. Willets road in Lakeville. The inn was along the route of the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt cup races.
The inn was later named The Elverton Inn and in 1932 became the Red lion Inn. No longer standing because later in the ‘30s it burned down.
Lakeville, by the way, is now Lake Success.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: The Lakeville Hotel on the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses

The Tucker radio was restored by NJARC club member, Bob Bennett of Nunellen, New Jersey.  Bob is an antique radio restorer and car collector.  Be sure to check-out his You Tube channel ...“Radio Wild”.  Richard Lee Pres. NJARC
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Howard Kroplick

Thanks Bob!! Great job!

From On the Road to Pebble: John Tucker, Jr. Delivers the Restored Tucker 1044 Radio

Should be just perfect for Pebble Beach

From On the Road to Pebble: John Tucker, Jr. Delivers the Restored Tucker 1044 Radio

In close up photos #2 & #3, at the extreme Eastern end of North Road, just after the last house on the right, a radio tower can be seen.  (This would be just a few yards away from the public road that later became Endo Blvd.).

Further research will need to be conducted to determine the purpose of the tower, though communication with incoming aircraft would seem to be the logical explanation.

From Update2:Mystery Foto #29 Solved:A 1936 Aerial of Mitchel Field,Roosevelt Raceway & the Motor Parkway

In close up photo #1, the remnant of the original main road leading up to Stewart Ave. can faintly be seen just to the right of Selfridge Avenue, running parallel to the three trees in a row. 

This road crossed the railroad tracks just to the East of the current crossing, then continued Southward across what would become the Quadrangle / Parade Grounds (which was occupied by numerous wooden buildings leftover from the Camp Mills days of WW1) to the airfield.

From Update2:Mystery Foto #29 Solved:A 1936 Aerial of Mitchel Field,Roosevelt Raceway & the Motor Parkway

Kudos to the auction house for accurately describing it as the best COMPLETED example. It will soon be the next best.

From RM Sotheby's to Auction Tucker 1046 at Monterey on August 24, 2018

“The most correct and beautifully finished example available”

Not for long, thanks to Howard!

From RM Sotheby's to Auction Tucker 1046 at Monterey on August 24, 2018

IS BOB IDA ANY RELATION TO THE BOB IDA WHO HAD A PHOTOGRAPHIC STUDIO IN BROOKLYN, ON NEW UTRECHT AVE AND 75 STREET?

From On the Road to Pebble: John Tucker, Jr. Delivers the Restored Tucker 1044 Radio

Guess.  Bull Run Inn.  Corner of Northern Blvd and Glen Cove Rd.  Moved off corner, about 70-80 years ago.  Torn down about 10 years ago.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: The Lakeville Hotel on the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses

Total guess….not the easiest pic to see with the trees blocking the view but this really does resemble the Westbury Quaker Hall at the corner of Jericho Tpk and Post Ave. This was perhaps 1/2 mike away from the former Vanderbilt cup start / finish line on Jericho Tpk. Yes this is still standing.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: The Lakeville Hotel on the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses

I believe we are looking at Flaherty’s Corner in the village of Lakeville (now Lake Success). The building is the Lakeville Hotel, sometimes called the Lakeville Inn, on the northeast corner of Lakeville Road and I. U. Willets Road. It was a great place to watch both the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Races. The direction of the photographer appears to be toward the northwest. In later years, the building was also known as the Elverton Inn and the Red Lion Inn. I believe it burned down in the 1930’s, sometime after 1932.

From Mystery Foto #30 Solved: The Lakeville Hotel on the 1905 and 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race Courses