Vanderbilt Cup Races

Whoops, it’s not a Pierce-Arrow. To the right of the Packard I believe is a Peerless.

From Mystery Foto #43 Solved:#7 Chalmers at the Hicksville Road Turn During the 1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race

On the bank, between the Packard 30 and the Pierce-Arrow, is a car with louvers on *top* of its hood, which I’ve never seen ... anyone know what it might be?

From Mystery Foto #43 Solved:#7 Chalmers at the Hicksville Road Turn During the 1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race

-The race and date of the photo.
1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race
October 30, 1909

-The race car, driver and mechanician.
#7 Chalmers-Detroit (USA) driven by William Knipper. Finished 3rd. Led most number of laps. Developed oil problems during lap 20. Mechanician: Robert Muller

-The location of the race car.
-The building on the right.
The turn off the newly built Motor Parkway just after the Massapequa Lodge, headed toward Massapequa-Hicksville Road.

-What was the purpose of the sign on the left?
The banner read;  “Exit For Contestants” instructing drivers they were required to continue on the Motor Parkway to the Bethpage Lodge for an inspection after the racers finished their laps.

From Mystery Foto #43 Solved:#7 Chalmers at the Hicksville Road Turn During the 1909 Vanderbilt Cup Race

What took you so long Frank??? You are the map king! Wayne’s map is awesome and it’s pretty cool that he was first to congratulate you on this new map.

I have to explore it more thoroughly, I haven’t been on top of the LIMP as I would like. Busy lately.

Question: Did you do your own research in terms of laying out the LIMP ROW? Or did you piggy back off of Wayne’s map for that? Did you have any points where you disagreed with Wayne’s map? I’m very curious.

From Femenias Findings: A New Interactive Online Map of the Long Island Motor Parkway

Fantastic pics of their collection

From Exclusive: Photos from the Wallis C. Bird and Marjorie Winifred Kendall Bird Family Album

I am still flabbergasted when I see all these historic glimpses. How fortunate we are to now be able to fill in some gaps in the coming of the motor parkway.

From Clinton Robertson Photo Album: Westbury Avenue Motor Parkway/Trolley Bridge in Mineola/Carle Place

Amazing cars!

From Mystery Foto #35 Solved:Two Record-Breaking Duesenbergs at the Long Island Automotive Museum in 1949

WOW again! Excellent photo submissions by all. And yet another first in photos; an actual shot of the Huntington Lodge at its original location. No porte cochere! Edith’s farm was just missed in the bottom right corner. Fabulous high resolution photo Richard!

From Mystery Foto #42 Solved: "Farmingdale State College" and the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1924

Awesome job Frank! Can I make some suggestions for markings and links for Grave’s Garage and Krug’s Corner as well?

From Femenias Findings: A New Interactive Online Map of the Long Island Motor Parkway

I’m stumped but have a feeling it’s Great Neck looking ESE

From Mystery Foto #42 Solved: "Farmingdale State College" and the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1924

Location of photo - Farmingdale/Melville facing mostly to the north
School - Farmingdale State College
Major Roads - Broad Hollow Rd (Rt 110), Melville Rd, Bethpage/Spagnoli Rd, Huntington Railroad old trolley line, LIMP (Broad Hollow bridge and Huntington Lodge)
Date of Photo - The trolley line stopped operation in 1927 and it appears the line is abandoned in the photo.  Knapp Hall was built in 1937 and is not in the photo.  Thompson Hall was built in 1938 and is also not in the photo. I would date the photo as taken in the early 1930’s (1930-1935).
LIMP structures - The Broad Hollow combination road/trolley bridge, LIMP Huntington Lodge
Unusual - One of 2 LIMP trolley combination bridges, the other Westbury Ave

From Mystery Foto #42 Solved: "Farmingdale State College" and the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1924

Excellant Frank! Great virtual drive of our favorite road!

From Femenias Findings: A New Interactive Online Map of the Long Island Motor Parkway

So much fun coming across these 1944 images of the original LIMP bridge/trestle over the Central RR ROW.

Does anyone happen to know or remember when Bell Blvd was established? The “NY CITY Map ” website ( 1924 aerial ) displays a very narrow path or road that dead ends at the north side of the Central ROW. This path/road lines up with today’s Bell Blvd. The LIMP doesn’t extend to this area yet in 1924, but we know this will happen soon after. Then the 1951 aerial displays Bell Blvd, LIMP basically how it looks presently. The original LIMP curved section is clearly seen as well. The RR bridge abutments that were utilized were situated just west of Bell Blvd. With this information, Bell Blvd didn’t extend south of the LIMP say until after 1940? The 1941 image above displays what must be Bell Blvd north & south beneath the original LIMP ( no new bridge yet ). The 1944 images describe as “The proposed extension of Bell Blvd”. And I don’t see any hint of a road in 1944. Thinking the mystery images to be 1940 or older.

The original LIMP was set to run a dead west from Rocky Hill Rd. No overpass was needed being that Bell Blvd didn’t exist yet, and the Central RR ROW was basically abandoned. Don’t think anyone expressed this yet, but I’m thinking that the entity that still owned the RR ROW must have requested the parkway not to sever the ROW. The LIMP organization agreed, and utilized the old RR abutments instead of starting from scratch.

From Updated: Mystery Foto #9 Solved: The Central R.R. Motor Parkway Bridge in Queens

Thanks for this information. I just found the Cup with the radiator cap in my fathers collection. Makes me wonder how many survived.

From Locomobile Vanderbilt Cup Mascot Sells for $2,550 on EBay

Frank - great job!  Thanks for the time and effort you put in.

From Femenias Findings: A New Interactive Online Map of the Long Island Motor Parkway

Missed Spagnoli Road in my earlier entry.

From Mystery Foto #42 Solved: "Farmingdale State College" and the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1924

We’re over East Farmingdale looking north / north-east with an early view of SUNY Farmingdale, then known as the NYS School of Agriculture on Long Island. Major roads are Broad Hollow Road (route 110) and Melville Road. The LIMP structures are the Huntington Lodge and the bridge over Broad Hollow Road. The bridge is unusual because it was one of only three that had a center pillar, the others being Clinton Road and Westbury Avenue. Since Knapp Hall (1937) and Thompson Hall (1938) have not yet been built on the campus and the trolley tracks on Broad Hollow Road appear to have been removed after service was ended in 1927, I’ll guess the date to be around1934-1935.

From Mystery Foto #42 Solved: "Farmingdale State College" and the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1924

LIMP Bridge passes to the north of Farmingdale College.  The Huntington toll lodge is to the east.  We are looking north.  The bridge had a separate area for the trolley to pass under.

From Mystery Foto #42 Solved: "Farmingdale State College" and the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1924

Incredible photos.  Thanks Howard!
Rog

From Exclusive: Surveyor Clinton Robertson's Long Island Motor Parkway Construction Photo Album

What is the location and the orientation of the photographer?
Farmingdale, looking Northeast. 

Identify the school. Depending on year:
1912 - NY State School of Agr. on LI
1920 - NY State School of Applied Agr. on LI
1924 - State Institute of Applied Agr.
1939 - State Institute of Agr.
1939+ Farmingdale State College
Current - SUNY Farmingdale

Identify the major roads.-  Melville Road, Smith Street, Route 110, LIMP

What is the approximate date of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale.
Early 1930s, prior to the building of Thompson and Knapp Halls in 1938 and 1936

Identify the Motor Parkway structure(s).  What is unusual about the structure(s)?
Broadhollow Road and Trolley Bridge.  Bridge had an extra lane of which the trolley went through. Huntington Lodge, possibly Clody Farm Bridge to the west. 

Prominent college buildings shown: Hicks and Cutler Halls

From Mystery Foto #42 Solved: "Farmingdale State College" and the Long Island Motor Parkway in 1924