Vanderbilt Cup Races

Just a few last minute guesses: I think that might be Joe Tracy and Jerry Helck. The photo may have been taken in September of 1948 on the 40th. anniversary of the Locomobile’s Vanderbilt Cup win. That would make him 75 years old and Jerry at 18.

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Joe Tracy & Jerry Helck in Old 16 at the 1945 Franklin County Fair

Oh, why not guess?  Joe Tracy and Jerry Helck?  SCCA?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Joe Tracy & Jerry Helck in Old 16 at the 1945 Franklin County Fair

I blew up the 1911 NYT map but it’s too blurry to read; the eastern terminus and Lake Ronkonkoma seem oddly displaced, relatively.  Thanks again, Art, for this fab. thread.  Sam, III

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part III)

Mystery Foto #50… In the photo the driver is Joe Tracy and the mechanician is Jerry Helck. But I don’t have any other answers regarding ages and date taken.

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Joe Tracy & Jerry Helck in Old 16 at the 1945 Franklin County Fair

Nice film . The track layouts in 1936 and 1936 from Nixon- Racing The Silver Arrows. Also from Nixon- Rex Mays took 3rd in an Alfa, J. Thorne 6th in another Alfa. Fastest lap Rudi Caraccioli in a MB at 84.5 MPH. The 36 race was interesting an American car, the Bird Pistion Special , Mauri Rose driver 6th, MB and AU did not compete.

From Film of the Week: An Amateur Color Film of 1937 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Being a sculptor myself, I’m very impressed with his detail and accuracy.

From Alexander Buchan's Kinetic Sculpture: The Checkered Flag

Hi Howard.  Thanks for another great topic.  The Bullitt Mustang holds continuing fascination for many people across the world.  I really hope that a museum such as The Henry Ford or The Petersen buys this car.  Ford has had decades of promotional benefit from its association with Bullitt.  Maybe they can now give something back.  I am in the UK and saw the car at Goodwood in 2018 but I totally support the prevailing view that this is a hugely important car that must be kept in the USA.  And, no, I don’t think that it should be restored.  Conservation and mild use is the way to go.

From Market Watch: Steve McQueen's Bullitt Mustang

Timothy - The above map is upside down, with south up. The Meadowbrook Pkwy now runs along the southern section of the old polo fields. Just to the north of MSP is now mostly occupied by Meadowbrook Pointe condos.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Nice find, thanks for sharing. Admiring all the open land in all directions; not a building in site on early Long Island. Fire truck at 4:05!

From Film of the Week: An Amateur Color Film of 1937 Vanderbilt Cup Race

What beautiful work!

From Alexander Buchan's Kinetic Sculpture: The Checkered Flag

Here’s a shot of the racing scene in the play.  Picture is from The Theatre Magazine sometime in 1906.  One car is the Peerless Green Dragon which was driven by Barney Oldfield in the 1914 and 1915 Vanderbilt Cup Races.

From Audio: "The Little Chauffeur" from the 1906 Broadway Show "The Vanderbilt Cup"

Although not the best quality, still a great film. You never know what you’ll find if you just keep looking. Some good shots of the Auto Union. Hard to tell if it was Rosemeyer or not.

From Film of the Week: An Amateur Color Film of 1937 Vanderbilt Cup Race

David Stephan - In regards to RHR following Queens Ave/46 Ave, was RHR’s western terminus at Parsons Blvd? This is interesting news.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Brian, The 50 foot wide spur to Hempstead Tpke. was never built. The cost was too prohibitive. The Parkway would have had to build a bridge over Stewart Ave., the Central Railroad , Sheep Pens Rd., and,  if ever developed that far, Second St. (Meadow St.) which did make it to Oak St. The spur was never in play until July 1, 1918 when the Parkway leased the strip to the federal govt. for $31.99 per month. In 1939 the govt. purchased the spur for $8900.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)

Mr. Poole must have been Mr. Byers official driver. He was probably trying to be on time for something, I hope Mr. Byers stood up for Al.

I’ve been in the position of Joe & Al as far as ‘representing a company’, but thankfully the event wasn’t as dire. A tough spot to be in, especially if you take matters to heart. You just hope that all involved make out. $25,000 versus today is about $730,000. $7,000 is about $200,000 now.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Al Poole's Original Documents from the Helck Family Collection

Marc - Soapbox derby in Akron still going strong - has evolved significantly since 1934 - take aloook -

https://www.soapboxderby.org/akron-area.aspx

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Another Long Island Race Inspired by the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Attached pic is not necessarily a push car but similar.  Couldn’t resist posting it here.  From The Autocar, Dec. 25,1925.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Another Long Island Race Inspired by the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Don’t know what it’ll fetch but likely the highest $ being iconic, and somewhat depending on condition as well. Absolutely stop the rust and restore before it completely deteriorates, but only under McQueen’s specification of the time. That’s what this car is all about. That’s a hot car!

From Market Watch: Steve McQueen's Bullitt Mustang

My hat’s off to this man, he’s amazing!

From Alexander Buchan's Kinetic Sculpture: The Checkered Flag

Yes Al, I noticed a Sheep Rd on the 1938 map that Art obtained from Nassau County. It’s shown as heading SW/ diagonally from the LIMP. Map also shows what looks to be the Hempstead Spur that didn’t come to be? I copied a 1914 map you’ll see below that shows Sheep Pens/Westbury Rd on both sides of the LIMP & also shows roads where HWY bridges were planned, but not built. I marked the Station # of the planned bridges ( #331 was Roosevelt Field ) Think I have it right? Realize too that these older roads were scrubbed out due to the military camps.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: The Long Island Motor Parkway in Maps (Part II)