Vanderbilt Cup Races

I believe the photo shows a view looking north with Deer Park Avenue running down the center; not sure about the year but I think it’s around 1928. The noteworthy structure could be the LIMP bridge over Deer Park Avenue which was subsequently removed after the LIMP was taken over by Suffolk County making the intersection in need of traffic control devices. The unusual feature(s) could be entrances to the parkway just west of Deer Park Avenue even though there is no toll lodge present. There also appears to be one or two entrances to the parkway just east of Deer Park Avenue connecting it with Candlewood Path.

From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Motor Parkway at Deer Park Avenue, Dix Hills in 1928

Identify this section of the Monday Parkway
In Deer Park/Dix Hills
Deer Park Ave running North/South in the center, LIMP is the curved road running left/right.

What year was this aerial taken?
1928

What structure seen in this photo makes this aerial very noteworthy?
A Motor Parkway Bridge over Deer Park Avenue. It was the most easterly bridge. However, there were no entrance/exit ramps on to the Motor Parkway from Deer Park Avenue

Bonus: What unusual feature of the Motor Parkway can be seen in this aerial?
There was a possible southern entrance to the Motor Parkway east of Deer Park Avenue which became Candlewood Path.

From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Motor Parkway at Deer Park Avenue, Dix Hills in 1928

Car show at Amaganset FD 6/20/15 rain date 6/21 just put this together sorry for the late advisement No conflict with any show,  .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  631 537 2815

From Long Island Presidents Car Club Council Reviews the 2015 Calendar of Events

LIMP Crossing Deer Park Ave.

From Mystery Foto #21 Solved: The Motor Parkway at Deer Park Avenue, Dix Hills in 1928

From Jan Hyde

Not only are you a top historian and collector, you have clout with the US Merchant Marines.  Well deserved, should be a great day.

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

Thank you Gentlemen!  After putting all you gave me along with my own questions (such as the need for the headlamp brackets) I stumbled on both these cars in a photo once again.  I’ll leave it to those who are more knowledgeable, but the headlamps were needed for this 24 hour race.  http://theoldmotor.com/?p=23900 (note second photo) This photo claims the car Oldfield to be driving a “rare bird” which may be one’s way of saying a one-off. 

The photo is obviously not the 24 hour race mentioned in the old motor but an interesting study of racing R&D way back in time.  The photo is a mess with ink spots all about it and white dots from, most probably, bad handling of the negative.  But this gives me the impetus to clean it up and then maybe ask the question.  What was the horn all about?

Thank you all.

Chuck

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: Barney Oldfield Driving a Stearns Racer in St. Paul on July 15, 1908

These pictures are not all the same lodge and the map locations are not the Massapeque lodge.

Toll lodge # 2 is the Bethpage toll not Massapeque
I lived there it was my Grandparents’ home and they worked for Vanderbilt until his death.
The Bethpage lodge is shown correctly in the photo THEN 1959 and TODAY as garden apartments complex
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From Howard Kroplick:

I spoke to Athur today and we agree the photos are of the Massapequa Lodge.

From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races

This was the best car show that I have ever seen, because you made it possible for me to see this historic event and everything else that went along with it. I know you have been busy researching on Shorty other things and you might have forgotten about it, my pictures I sent to you and you said you were going to post them,Sunday Drive. See ya on Thursday

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

Didn’t get many takers on this one. Greg, good try

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: Barney Oldfield Driving a Stearns Racer in St. Paul on July 15, 1908

From Wayne Carroll Petersen:

Howard,
I researched the car in the photo and I was up in the air as to what car it was. I contacted Mark Dill from http://www.firstsuperspeedway.com and he seems to think it might be the Stearns from 1908, the link below has the information.

http://www.firstsuperspeedway.com/articles/barney-st-paul

Best regards,
You Know Me!
Wayne Carroll Petersen
Great Great Nephew of Barney Oldfield, Master Driver of the World & America’s Legendary Speed King

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: Barney Oldfield Driving a Stearns Racer in St. Paul on July 15, 1908

After a few hours last night and a little time today researching, I am stumped on this one! I’m sure I’ll be kicking myself when I see the answer!

Need a little better resolution, but my only, and best guess for the driver on the left would be that it looks like Dario Resta.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: Barney Oldfield Driving a Stearns Racer in St. Paul on July 15, 1908

Will do Frank, but it wasnt me at FM park though, I was in Cunningham Park and Alley Pond Park that day exploring the Hollis Tereace and Sprigfield Blvd. bridges.

Howard, good to meet you at Kings Point yesterday it was fun watching the Black Beast roar and spit fire, my daughter jumped back when it started up!! Great restoration on the Imperial and Lots of Luck with the “Shorty” Mustang too, Mike

From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: The Western Terminus of the Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows on July 23, 1939

From Dave Duricy:

I recently learned that you exhibited the Chryslers’ 1937 Imperial town car at the former Chrysler estate on Kings Point. I was gratified to see that car in that place.

I’ve written about Chrysler automobiles and Chrysler history for many years. I believe that the man and his corporation were deeply influential, yet they are woefully under-appreciated today.

This may sound strange coming from a complete stranger, and stranger who didn’t even attend the show, but thank you for driving the Imperial home.

Best Regards,
Dave Duricy

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

From Steven Vilardi:

“Great show, beautiful surroundings, magnificent mansions, million dollar view and the hot dogs were even good. The uniformed midshipmen of the institution were all helpful and friendly. The shuttle busses were great. Both you folks and the school did a wonderful job of coordinating a fine event.”

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

Quite a challenge this time! First of all, we see Barney Oldfield (with cigar) in the light colored stock car racer, which appears to be a Stearns, recognizable by the white line radiator (patented in 1909!). It is one of the larger models, which had the round-bended springhorn with shackle. The year must be 1908, as this is the only year that Oldfield raced with Stearns. The other racer appears to be a Stearns too, but a smaller model, having a different front spring system. Oldfield’s regular team mate and opponent in 1908 was Charles Soules, who raced against him regularly on several tracks that year, so it could well be him. The track is clearly a very small one, but I couln’t find a track matching the background details of the photo.
The link with the Vanderbilt Cup is of course Barney Oldfield, who despite his brilliant career raced his first Vanderbilt Cup only in 1914.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: Barney Oldfield Driving a Stearns Racer in St. Paul on July 15, 1908

Hi Howard! 
Great show!  Very proud and honored to have had this experience!
Thank you!

Ann

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

Just like stepping into a time machine. Amazing!

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

Friday’s photo shoot was an amazing time. It was a very moving emotional “homecoming” to see the Chrysler parked there at the back of the Chrysler mansion.
Great to see my editor and great friend Richard Lentinello for several hours as he photographed that magnificent car. Photographing a black car is not an easy task! The mirror finish reflects everything . Look for a full two part story in consecutive issues of Hemmings Classic Car magazine towards the end of this year, of both the history of the car and the extensive restoration it received. Hats off to you Howard and Roz for stepping up to save this car, see it restored correctly and authentically to the absolute last detail and now share it with all of us, AND keep the car on Long Island where it has its heritage.

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

Absolutely beautiful!

From Chrysler's Chrysler Returns to Its Kings Point Home This Weekend

Mike, you’re dead on with the gravestone! Lol. We share the same possibilities. Though, after reconsidering its height (approx 7-8ft.), It’s most likely not a cemetery entrance post (those would be much larger and grand), but most likely a monument for sale by same vendor on Horace Harding Blvd (Nassau Blvd). Another possibility is that the stone was purchased close to the date of the photograph (1931), and most likely installed somewhere in Cedar Grove or Mount Hebron (too expensive to transport to another cemetery). Not sure.  Also, I have strong suspicion we crossed paths that same day by the lake in FM Park. Contact me. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)

From Mystery Foto #18 Solved: The Western Terminus of the Motor Parkway in Fresh Meadows on July 23, 1939