Vanderbilt Cup Races

Love watching the process… so exciting!!

From Tucker 1044 Conservation Report I: The Original Andante Green Uncovered

Was it metallic paint? It’s hard to tell from the lighting.
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Howard Kroplick

Not sure. I will check with Rob Ida.

From Tucker 1044 Conservation Report I: The Original Andante Green Uncovered

http://www.oldlongisland.com is a great site, but he hasn’t made a post since July and there is no back and forth discussions on anything really on the site. We have more back and forth on this post then they have all year! Monica’s book is great but the site isn’t really on the same level. We can have posts, discuss it, explore it, trespass, and have Sam III come bail us out of prison! This is a great group that would produce alot of discussion and education.

From Update: Mystery Foto #47 Solved: Long Island Estate of Virginia "Birdie" Graham Fair Vanderbilt

I don’t think i would have had the courage to push that 70 year old engine even on a Dyno.  Will definitely try to make the presentation at Ida’s facility.

From Road and Track & Jalopnik: Watch a Barn-Find Tucker Lay Numbers on a Dyno

Well done Howard !!

From 1937 Chrysler's Chrysler Honored with National Awards By The Antique Automobile Club of America

I would have to say that the driver looks like Harry Grant.

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Harry Grant at the 1914 Indy 500 Race

Thanks, Howard.  Horrors!  Those are the bastards that destroy perfectly good old cars!  Hate ‘em.  Sam (the purist), III

From 1937 Chrysler's Chrysler Honored with National Awards By The Antique Automobile Club of America

May have mentioned this before, but I came across this site without intention. The 1926 aerials are amazingly clear. Suffolk County has a similar website, but I think your already aware of this; Howard. From what I noticed, other subscribers here are enjoying the site!

From Favorite Website: MyNassauProperty.com- 1926 and 1950 Aerials of Nassau County

Running out of time for research so I’ll guess !909 & !910 VCR winner Harry Grant at the Elgin National Trophy Race, August, 1913, driving an Isotta.

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Harry Grant at the 1914 Indy 500 Race

Mystery Foto #50….I want to call the driver Johnny Aitken and his claim to fame was that he started in 41 races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, the most starts of any driver in the track’s history.
Going out on a limb and calling the car a Peugeot. I can’t document it though.

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Harry Grant at the 1914 Indy 500 Race

I am sorely puzzled - I gather #1044 is getting a ground-up full restoration, not merely a repaint.  I thought she was in good shape.  Care to elucidate?  Sam, III
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Howard Kroplick I

Sam, a full concours restoration would likely take 2-3 years. Ida Automotive and the Tucker Team will have nine months in Phase I of the restoration to repair, repaint and restore as much as possible. Based on the final condition and after driving and showing it in the summer and fall of 2018, I will decide if there needs to be a Phase II.

From Video of the Week: Tucker Torpedo by Ida Automotive

Looks promising. I’ll try it when I have a chance! Thanx!

From Favorite Website: MyNassauProperty.com- 1926 and 1950 Aerials of Nassau County

Yee-hah!  You worked hard to get here, Howard!  But - there has to be a but - what might the “modified community” and Ridler Award be, please?  Sam, III
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Howard Kroplick I

The highest award given to modified custom automobiles:

Don Ridler was the first professional promoter hired by the MHRA to assist them with the fledgling Autorama in the Fifties. With Don’s creativity and professional approach in promoting, Autorama was able to grow tremendously and eventually move to its present home at Cobo Center in 1961. In 1963, Autorama decided to honor Don Ridler, who had prematurely passed away, with an award given in his name.

Originally, the award was given to the Best Vehicle shown for the first time. Over the last fifty plus years, the award has evolved to better conform to new ideas, changing designs and concepts. Today it emphasizes creativity, engineering and quality workmanship. Anyone building a vehicle for Ridler competition should post these words on their garage wall. The vehicle that best represents those three areas will win the Ridler Award.

https://autorama.com/awards/ridler-award/

From 1937 Chrysler's Chrysler Honored with National Awards By The Antique Automobile Club of America

My original MP Panel idea was to extract an overlay of all the pix and maps relating to the LIMP and post it with a key to (or copy of) the current Hagstrom’s.  Langenschweidt was amenable to some such arrangement.  A later finesse (when such became available - my, how OLD is all this?) was to have added GPS points.  Is there any interest in continuing with this notion?  Sam, III
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Howard Kroplick I

Sam , I believe Wayne Consolla’s Google Map of the Motor Parkway provides one type of overlay:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?ll=40.77848579025074%2C-73.45081299999998&spn=0.11244%2C0.264187&dg=feature&msa=0&mid=1b9GM_MA5G3EiZ7GyUDHjSTmwffM&z=12

From Favorite Website: MyNassauProperty.com- 1926 and 1950 Aerials of Nassau County

Out of curiosity, I looked on Google Maps and, uh, oh, the Field House seems to be south of the south path.  Did the paths change or what, Frank?  The ol’ nitpicjker, Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #46 Solved: A Spectacular 1940 Aerial of the Rocky Hill Lodge & the Gatekeeper's House

The picture shows Harry Grant in one of the1914 Indy Sunbeams. The picture is confusing, because he is not sitting in his own car, but in the car of Jean Chassagne. Most car details are identical like the dash-line, the cloth-wrapped steering wheel, the flimsy seats and the relatively high gas tank. A difference is the windscreen on top of the dash, which is continuous (and slightly different in shape) on Grant’s car, but divided on Chassagne’s car (cf. the crashed car photo). Also the color of the car seems lighter than his own car. Another confusing detail by the way is the sweater with the white strip, almost identical to the 1910 Alco sweater, but without lettering.
Chassagne indeed crashed during the 20th lap, turning turtle while taking a turn. Grant was more successful and finished on 7th place.

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Harry Grant at the 1914 Indy 500 Race

The paths in Alley pond park haven’t changed all that much from photo. Field house is located between the parallel paths in center.

From Mystery Foto #46 Solved: A Spectacular 1940 Aerial of the Rocky Hill Lodge & the Gatekeeper's House

exits/entrances to Alley Pond Park’s upper parking area and it was a parkway. Northern state/southern state have similar construction features

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: Creedmore Hospital and Commonwealth Boulevard Motor Parkway Bridge in 1941

Mr. Harry Grant
Winner of the 1909 & 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races in the Alco Black Beast

I’ll be looking into the car and race…

From Mystery Foto #50 Solved: Harry Grant at the 1914 Indy 500 Race

Hold your horses.  Monica Randall, author of “The Mansions of Long Island’s Gold Coast” and a whole book on Winfield alone, already has a website on same: <http://www.monicarandall.com>.  Also, not being on LI any longer, I won’t be able to bail you out for trespassing!  :↓·)  Sam, III

From Update: Mystery Foto #47 Solved: Long Island Estate of Virginia "Birdie" Graham Fair Vanderbilt