Vanderbilt Cup Races

Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge, just west of Maxess Road in Melville. Built in 1910.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Sammy on the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville

Melville - LIMP just east of Maxess RD
Ezekiel Smith farmway bridge remnants, built 1910

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Sammy on the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville

When were the swimming pool and tennis courts added to the Aviation Country Club? The earliest photo I’ve seen of those are from 1939. Does documentation exist stating if the pool and tennis courts were built at the same time as the first hangar?

From Then & Now: The Long Island Aviation Country Club on the Motor Parkway

The walk over bridge abutment, near Ruland Rd in Melville.

From Mystery Foto #11 Solved: Sammy on the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville

Sign me up!  Looks like a great auto.

From Updated VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: A Rare 1947 Tucker Franchise Plan Sales Tool

Doreen:

Great Job!

Hi Howard,

Thank you so much for your wonderful lecture on Sunday!!  Rave reviews from all!

I really enjoyed working with you and hope our paths cross again soon.  Keep up the good work on behalf of abused children… they need all the advocacy and money that we can muster.

Again, thanks so much.  And thanks to Rosalind for the pictures and technical back up! It helped a great deal. 

Sincerely,
Doreen

From Highlights From the Westhampton Historical Society Vanderbilt Cup Races Presentation

That 1909 pin is pretty cool. Probably not many of those things lying around.

Just curious…..the picture w the pin vendor: any idea where that is?
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Howard Kroplick

Dave, it looks like the Motor Parkway..likely near the grandstand.

From Highlights From the Westhampton Historical Society Vanderbilt Cup Races Presentation

Florence Ogg:
I found a reference to Frank.G.Webb in the Automobile Journal 1912(Vol.33 p.25)
of a Frank G Webb entering a competition sponsored by the Manufacturers Contest Association.
Hope it helps in your search
Florence

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A 1909 Long Island Automobile Club Membership Cup

Mystery Foto # 10… The trophy is the Long Island Automobile Club Membership Cup as as presented by Frank Webb. Frank Webb was president of the Long Island Automobile club. Frank’s connection to the Vanderbilt cup races was Vice Chairman of the 1908 race.
As for the cup winner, Allen C. Alderman, based on my research he is “Persona Non Founda” No mention of him in any of my books or the Internet research.
I will go out on a limb and say the race car engraved on the cup is none other than the Black Beast ALCO #8

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A 1909 Long Island Automobile Club Membership Cup

At the 1909 Long Island Auto Club dinner outgoing president Frank Webb presented this trophy to Allen Alderman for being the top recruiter.  Frank Webb was an official at the 1908 LIMP Sweepstakes.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A 1909 Long Island Automobile Club Membership Cup

What I really want to know is, when it’s done, a description of the driving experience VS what it was BEFORE all the work. Basically, this will be “as new”

From Tucker 1044 Conservation Report III: Putting 1044 Back Together

I think the trophy was sponsored by the Long Island Automobile Club and presented to Allen C. Alderman because he (as membership chairman?) had “secured the greatest number of new members” to join the club. It looks like the year 1909 is on the trophy and Alderman went on to become club president the following year. Frank G. Webb had been the vice chairman of the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race Commission (and now president of the L.I.A.C.) so maybe he somehow managed to get the 1909 V.C. R. winner, the Black Beast, engraved onto the trophy.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A 1909 Long Island Automobile Club Membership Cup

Anxious to see the finished car. Perhaps you can give all of us an advance notice of #1044’s public debut. My son and I could possibly fly out to see it and meet you depending on his schedule.
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Howard Kroplick

Jeff, the debut will likely be announced in early summer on this website.

From Tucker 1044 Conservation Report III: Putting 1044 Back Together

The car could be Vincenzo Lancia’s # Fiat, steering dramatically to avoid Christie, while the mechanician is pointing in the direction of the incoming car.

The membership cup was given to Alderman for “having secured ninety-nine new members” for the New York State Automobile Association, of which he was the incoming President.

Webb was one of the officials of the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup Race. He served as Vice-Chairman of the Vanderbilt Cup Commission.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A 1909 Long Island Automobile Club Membership Cup

Thanks for a glimpse in to what once was…..Enjoyed it…

From The Impact of the Vanderbilt Cup Races: The Long Island Race Tracks

HA!  You left out the Roosevelt Raceway, where the VC races were run on 19 June 1960 on the flat, on a twisting road course laid out in the infield and around the trotting track.  I vas dere, Cholly (as was Old 16), and even snuck my XK120M drophead Jag out onto the course immediately after the race was over and got in a lap at speed before being chased off.  Not much of an auto racetrack but still it WAS one - AND it hosted a VCR!  Sam, III

From The Impact of the Vanderbilt Cup Races: The Long Island Race Tracks

‘Tis I, again - what a thread!  “Nutting” has been bothering me and the name finally clicked - Gurney Nutting, of course, only one of the finest coachbuilders ever!  Hugh - any relation to John (Jack) Gurney Nutting or just an incredible coincidence in this regard?  Sam, III

From Updated 2/21/18: Mystery Foto #7 Solved: The Roslyn Motors Lincoln Dealership in 1926

This trophy was the Membership Cup, awarded to the member of the Long Island Automobile Club who recruited the most new members during the year.  It was sponsored by Louis T. Weiss, who had won a similar award in the past.  Frank G. Webb was president of the club at the time.  Allen C. Alderman, a wealthy attorney, who was also a past president of the club, had recruited the most new members.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A 1909 Long Island Automobile Club Membership Cup

Very nice presentation

Ken

From The Impact of the Vanderbilt Cup Races: The Long Island Race Tracks

Hi, Howard,
This was a reminder that in 1982 we “borrowed” the Vanderbilt name at Bridgehampton and ran what we called “Vanderbilt Speed Weeks”, with AAMRR motorcycle road races and a motocross on one weekend followed by SCCA/EMRA sports car races the next. This was to celebrate the track’s 25th birthday. We sort of recreated the Cup for the event, using a picture from the Smithsonian as a guide.  Best regards, Earl

From The Impact of the Vanderbilt Cup Races: The Long Island Race Tracks