Vanderbilt Cup Races

The new hint provided my guess that this was manufactured by Thomas Callister’s carriage and wagon factory, Jamaica Avenue and Hempstead Turnpike, Queens Village.

From Mystery Foto #3 Stumper: A Kings Point Callister Brothers Bus Built in Queens Village (Circa 1930s)

The bus was manufactured by the Callistor Bros. of Queens Village in the 1930’s.
The company was located on the north side of Hempstead Turnpike Just south of Jamaica Avenue. The company was originally called the Callistor Wagon Works founded during the 1870’s by Thomas Callistor Jr. and sat on 18 plus acres. The triangular shaped parcel was bound by the LIRR on the north, Hempstead Turnpike on the south and 217th St. on the East. The name change occurred when they switched over to manufacturing motorized vehicles. The company was unique in that they built both the chassis and body, In most cases the chassis is built by one party and another builds the body. Shortly after the bus was built the factory was completely destroyed by fire. The Callistor family chose not to rebuild but instead opened an automobile showroom right around the corner on Jamaica Avenue selling at various times Huppmobile,  Durant and Peerless automobiles.

From Mystery Foto #3 Stumper: A Kings Point Callister Brothers Bus Built in Queens Village (Circa 1930s)

Mystery Foto #3… Lots of research, very little results. I’ll take a stab at it and call the bus a 1940’s Studebaker. Factory located Jamica, Queens.
The company had built Conestoga wagons and farm wagons before motor vehicles.

From Mystery Foto #3 Stumper: A Kings Point Callister Brothers Bus Built in Queens Village (Circa 1930s)

l’m going to guess the bus is from the Steinway (piano) Hunter’s Point Railroad Company (Queens, late 1800s) which had connected various transportation routes in early LIC. Stumped again! Looking forward to the answers.

From Mystery Foto #3 Stumper: A Kings Point Callister Brothers Bus Built in Queens Village (Circa 1930s)

Whoooie!  Where have I been all this time?  Frank’s Great-American Novel-cum-Google-Maps-link reveals a wealth of knowledge, far more than I ever knew was assembled in any one place; it’s exactly what I called for the old Panel to do and then asked that the Preservation Society do.  Hurrah!  I just spent an inordinate amount of time tracing the full RoW from HHB/199th to Ronk., mostly at hi-res.!  What is the “home” URL?  How accurate is the RoW center-line?  Where can one find the FULL key to all the legends, outlines, and symbols?  THIS I gotta post on my site, right up front!  Thanks, Frank and Al.  Sam, III

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

Sam, regarding the alignment of the Parkway after crossing over the LIRR southward.  The Parkway was required to shift the roadway westward as it approached Old Country Rd. in order to align with the Parkway’s r.o.w. south of Old Country Rd. which was only 50 feet wide and immovable.  The Parkway preferred a minimum of a 100 foot wide r.o.w.  They were fortunate that the Garden City Company accommodated them at all. That area already had a sub-division laid out. The Garden city Company took 25 feet from the rear of lots backing up to each other in order to accommodate the Parkway r.o.w. thru this area. As part of the deal, the Parkway had to built the bridge abutments that we call the Mayan ruins. I believe a map of the original sub-division exists.

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

Congrats to you!  I met Bill Warner at Lime Rock last year with his group 44 Triumph in the paddock.  I spoke to him about his car and racing in general.  I had no idea who he was at the time.  He was very gracious.  The Tucker looks great!

From Hold the Date: Tucker 1044 Open House on Sunday, February 24, 2019

Mark – Eagle Rock is correct, just west of the 800 Flowers building. The parking lot Vanderbilt Drive is the approximate LIMP RoW.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1396j0_672hYkvbcNFJInbc1mXNJspD9f&ll=40.742955233131035,-73.62262802756459&z=17

Sam – Tricky section, I believe it went like this; After crossing the RR bridge southbound on the LIMP, the parkway didn’t follow the street grid and headed slightly eastward towards Vanderbilt Drive. Soon after the descending ramp there was a slight right bend before reaching Old Country Road, aligning the LIMP with Vanderbilt Drive. The right bend can’t be seen in Robertson’s 1909 photo but visible in the aerial sending to Howard.
I’ve seen similar distortions at other locations: Just east of Commonwealth Blvd bridge, and just north of 73 Ave bridge in Fresh Meadow. 

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

Mark, there are/were at least two Fairhavens along the LIMP, one at the Jericho Pike crossing and this one on OCR, so, yes, you’re quite right.  The other (now Eagle Rock of Carle Place) is on the south side of the Jericho Pike between it and Fairhaven Road, east of Rudolph Drive (and the east end of Rudolph Road).  By the way, my 1999 pic of the posts is at <http://sbiii.com/limpkwy3.html#crossing> (scroll down a bit).  Sam, III

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

Updated: Dave Russo added three 2016 photos of the location.

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

New hint added to the Mystery Foto.

From Mystery Foto #3 Stumper: A Kings Point Callister Brothers Bus Built in Queens Village (Circa 1930s)

Looking forward to your open house in Feb. Hopeful a decent weather at the time? Will your Alco Black Beast be back from repaired?
____________________________________
Howard Kroplick

Mark, the Alco Black Beast will be there but not running while its fan system is being restored.

From Hold the Date: Tucker 1044 Open House on Sunday, February 24, 2019

The apartment complex in the photo, would that be Eagle Rock Apartment formally known as Fairhaven Garden Apartments on Old Country Rd. with the office building next to it 800?

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

Howard, congrats on your Amelia Island invitation.  Very deserving.
I’ve made note of your open house on February 24.  Looking forward to it.
All the best,
Rog

From Hold the Date: Tucker 1044 Open House on Sunday, February 24, 2019

Great stuff.  My memories started 60 years ago when my aunt and uncle lived on Foxcroft Rd, which parallels LIMP, and I would visit them. I then moved to Evans Ave and Chaffee St and behind my house was a sump or dump that later in my residence there would realize it was the ROW to the LIMP.  This road has been in my life forever.  Great to know a younger person gets it with history!!!!  Bob

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

“PHONE GREAT NECK 243w”?  I lived on LI almost all my life and my first phone number was CEDARHURST 8307 but I don’t remember EVER seeing a letter after the number.  Some sort of Party Line or extension?  Anyone?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #3 Stumper: A Kings Point Callister Brothers Bus Built in Queens Village (Circa 1930s)

Thanks for sharing a wonderful moment, Joe!  All of Ron’s 1983 pix are at <http://sbiii.com/limpbrdg.html#rrbridgs>.  I also beg your indulgence.  Dave, those posts alongside Vanderbilt Drive North re right on the RoW.  The alignment of the LIMP here never made any sense to me.  The bridge points ever so slightly to the right (west) of the apartment roof centerline, and the RoW swings to the west just before OCR, yet the RoW berween Pell Terrace and Russell Road is EAST of all this!  Doctored aerial sent to HK.  The N-S boundary between Mineola and Carle Place at this spot shifted after the LIMP was built but that has nothing to do with this alignment question.  HELP!  Sam, III

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

Adding some more (all predicated if my original answers are somewhat correct).
Model: Too confusing, but here’s another possibility
1939 Mack Model CW3G (ser# 1122)
Original purpose of Mack were trolley cars.
Late 30s, early 40s. 

From Mystery Foto #3 Stumper: A Kings Point Callister Brothers Bus Built in Queens Village (Circa 1930s)

Tremendous memories , thank you for sharing with all of us. I have had similar “I was there” memories at other auto related locations , and those locations as well are now no longer there. ( I walked around the abandoned factory in Syracuse , NY where the Franklin car was built , and was there to see it demolished with explosives and caught it on movie film in the 1970s)  . Moments in time captured forever in memories that are most important to share.

From Updated: Then & Now: Mineola LIRR Motor Parkway Bridge

Excellent, wonderful news , great opportunity for so many people to see and absolutely great car.

From Hold the Date: Tucker 1044 Open House on Sunday, February 24, 2019