Vanderbilt Cup Races

Mystery Foto #10…The truck is a 1918 Bull Nose Mack Truck model AC. The W. H. Pickering store was in Roslyn on East Broadway. Year of photo is around 1918 or 1919. The Store belongs to W. H. Pickering, a photographer who was shooting photos at some of the Vanderbilt Cup Races.
Truck likely to be delivering… Brooklyn Eagle newspapers OR maybe coal.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

What wonderful news! congratulations to the Tucker team , yes, but also to you and Roz, Howard, for bringing this car back to the way it was when new, and sharing it with all of us here on Long Island! This is just so great to read! 
Walt

From Tucker 1044 Awarded First in Class at the 2019 Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance

Mrs. Earl lived to be 114 years old, few if any that pass hear headstone in St. Mary’s know who she was. She had a farm here in Ridgefield and a dog kennel were she raised show dogs. Bob

From A Historical Fiction Novel of Consuelo Vanderbilt: American Duchess by Karen Harper

The Brooklyn Daily Eagle ran a complete story of the Pickering family on Sept. 26, 1908.  Not sure if it will copy here:

https://img.newspapers.com/img/img?id=53946680&width=700&height=2924&crop=1385_443_1300_6443&rotati; alt=<strong></strong>  Sat, Sep 26, 1908 – Page 23 · The Brooklyn Daily Eagle (Brooklyn, Kings, New York) · Brooklyn Public Library

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

Identify the manufacturer, model and year of the truck:  Mack, AC Bulldog, 1916

Where is the location of the Mystery Foto and the orientation of the photographer?
East Broadway in Roslyn.  The boook “Nassau County Long Island, in Early Photographs” indicates the Pickering shop was at 193 East Broadway.  Looking south possibly. 

What is the year of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale.  1920?

Link the Mystery Foto to the Vanderbilt Cup Races.  Photographer William H. Pickering, named official Nassau County photographer took pictures of the VCR races, including 1905, 06 and 09.  Maybe others. 

Kudos question: What was likely being delivered by the truck driver?
Can’t decide if there is a woman in the back of the truck with a hat on.  Possibly for a parade.  If the truck was parked at the shop, than anything sold or made there.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

That’s a MACK model AC probably from around 1918-1920. The location of the photo is in front of 193 East Broadway facing south in Roslyn. I’m going to guess around 1920 for the date of the photo since I’ve seen a similar Pickering photo from the Bryant Library dated 1918. William Pickering (1865-1929) was an early Long Island photographer who took many pictures of several Vanderbilt Cup Races, turned them into postcards, and sold them at his store. Hard to say what the truck was delivering but I’m going to guess some kind of furnace or heating apparatus.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

Howard, the truck is recognizable as a Mack AC truck, circa 1915, by the “M” logo and the radiator mounted behind the engine. William Pickering was a photographer in the Roslyn area, and judging from the images in the windows, this must have been his studio. That’s all I got.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

The truck is a 1916-1918 AC Mack, manufactured by the International Motor Truck Co. (did not become Mack Trucks until 1922).
The photo was taken in front of Wm. Pickering’s store in Roslyn.
The photo was taken in 1917-18, due to what appears to be WWI posters in the store windows.
Wm. Pickering took many Vanderbilt Cup race photos.
Due to the large load in the truck and the trailer, and the fact the truck has a third axle for weight, it must be hauling photographic equipment for developing and printing photos.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

Howard, the truck is a 1916 Mack model AC. and pulling a trailer. The photo was taken on East Broadway in Roslyn most likely by Pickering, we looking south. I’m guessing the photo taken in 1918 and the truck owned by the federal government as it appears not to have a license plate. Is the tank in the body of the truck? That model was more commonly called a “bulldog” Mack, a name given to it by the British because of it’s bulldog like ferocious tenacity. During World War I many American manufactured trucks were sent overseas.  I’m familiar with Mack trucks as I restored a 1925 Mack 30 years ago, licensed it, and drove it all over the New Hyde Park area for several years. A few years ago I sold it to a guy from Greenlawn and he’s stilling driving it all over that part of Huntington. For the gullible, the tank was being brought to Bar Beach which at the time had a dock and loaded on to the Titanic . It never made it to England as we know it was sunk by German submarines.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

The truck is a 1916-1921 Mack AC ‘Bulldog Type’ model, the AC type was produce from 1916 to 1938.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

The truck is a Mack. A Bulldog model. Most likely early to mid 1920s. Maybe photo chemicals. Its too large to deliver news papers. Wm Pickering was a noted photographer from Roslyn L.I. who took lots of Vanderbilt race photos. The Bulldog Macks were quite popular after WW1. I remember a junk yard near Berlin, MA still using one as a boom truck in 1957.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

MACK!  Th-th-that’s all, f-f-folks!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

That view down into the factory appears to have been taken from the balcony at the east end of the second story pass-through, visible in the Panchyk pic, between Engineering and the plant.  Does anyone know if it was there in 1917?  It was still there when I worked in the building ca. 1956.  As I’ve noted before, the outline of the south side of the throat of the Curtiss wind tunnel was still visible in the inner south wall then.  Wonder if that’s still in here and could be rescued?  Sam (I’m soooo old - - - ), III :·)

From The 1917 Curtiss Autoplane-An Aerial Limousine Built in Garden City

Such a sad ending to a remarkably inspired and acquired automotive collection. The remark in Kurt Ernst’s article regarding the tenuous and uncertain plight of auto-mobile museums is well known to all automobile enthusiasts. In the end this sale by no-reserve auction will fund the educational assistance envisioned by Frank Spain and his widow Jane for many years. It will be an appropriate accomplishment in the lives of two remarkable people. Bid high and preserve the vehicles for their history and beauty. Bonhams will do a good job , I am sure.

From Hemmings Blog: Tupelo Automobile Museum to close, sell off collection including Tucker 1028

*ID manufacturer, model and year of truck:  Mack truck…1918? I read that the logo seen ( which looks very cool ) was discontinued after 1920. They should still use that stylish M instead of plain old Mack.

*Location & Orientation of Photographer: Perhaps the photographer was William H Pickering. Image taken on E Broadway Roslyn, NY viewing south, capturing Mr. Pickering’s General Store, a couple of onlookers plus the Brooklyn Eagle Newspaper dispenser. Wonder if E Broadway was always One Way North?

*Year/Rationale; 1918-20. Truck is my rationale.

*VCR link:  Mr. Pickering well documented these races with photography.

*What’s in the trucks trailer:  Looks like a wrecked auto. Mr. Pickering likely photographed autos that were in accidents for law enforcement, insurance claims etc.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

-Identify the manufacturer, model and year of the truck
1916 Mack AC

-Where is the location of the Mystery Foto and the orientation of the photographer?
Looking South from William Pickering’s studio at 193 East Broadway in Roslyn

-What is the year of the Mystery Foto? Provide a rationale.
Truck year and style of dress make me want to guess 1918 or so

-Link the Mystery Foto to the Vanderbilt Cup Races.
William Pickering shot scenes of the the Vanderbilt Cup Races from 1905 to 1910.

-Kudos question: What was likely being delivered by the truck driver?
No idea

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

I can only provide a few facts: the truck is an AC series Mack. Must be a very heavy load as the truck has solid tires and so does the trailer. Mack glass plate negative archives were in Brooklyn where the company started, were rescued by Henry Austin Clark ( many many steel 4 or 5 drawer filing cases that were full ) in the 1950s when Mack relocated to Allentown, Pa. These cases were in the basement of Austin’s home in Glen Cove for decades, and were donated back to Mack about a decade before he passed away. The history of Mack as written by my good friend John B. Montville and published in a book and these glass plate negatives were the primary source for images. All memories of so many decades ago.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

East Broadway, looking south towards intersection with Roslyn Road.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

Tough mystery, I found some answers - feeling lucky patching the remaining holes. Early 1920s, a Mack AC Bulldog truck with rear-axle chain drive delivering newspapers and used books to the W.H. Pickering general store, at the corner of East Broadway and Papermill Road in Roslyn, looking north. Self-taught photographer, Pickering photographed Roslyn parades and early Long Island races including Vanderbilt Cup Races. His extensive library of photographs are still treasured today and stored at the Bryant library located at the same corner in Roslyn. His house was next to the store and I don’t believe either one survived the test of time.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)

  1/.  Truck is a MACK 1907-1914
  2./  Location is East Broadway, Roslyn, NY
  3./  Photo Date:  Circa 1908
  4./  William Pickering, noted photographer took LIMP//VCC Race photos..
  5./  Delivery appears to be construction or farm equipment.

From Mystery Foto #10 Solved: A Mack AC Truck on Bryant Avenue in Roslyn (Circa 1917-1918)