Vanderbilt Cup Races

Hello Art,
Great column; lots of good info; Looks like the start of a really nice series. The reference to Patchogue in the Sept. 1907 newspaper article caught my attention so I thought I would attach a photo of Judge Jaycox’s home at that time. It was on East Main Street near the corner of Route 112, currently occupied by a strip mall, TD Bank, and BP gas station. Looks like being a judge paid well even then.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville Over Time

The car drawings were done by designer Alex Tremulis. He did a few of them in February, 1947 that were used in advertising, business cards, press releases, etc. It was the first public images for the newly-renamed “Tucker ‘48” design. If you look closely, you can see they just reversed the image for the 50:50 balance inset (it never was right hand drive). Here’s another of his variations, also used in advertising:

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Howard Kroplick

Very cool! Thanks for the insight!

From 1947 Tucker '48 Ad: The Surprise Car of the Year

Great Drainage Brian! I’ve blatantly overlooked this fine detail in all the photos provided thus far. It now makes sense. A round opening would’ve been more appropriate for drainage. Why square? Aesthetics? Quite possibly with Vanderbilt’s high standards. It looks more like an electrical junction box. I believe you are right! I never tire of the Motor Parkway. Glad all these historical photos have been preserved for future generations to learn from.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville Over Time

And here’s the 1984 aerial, and a current road map showing the location as a - School/Historic? There’s been the white office building there at least since 1994. Sure a few businesses operate within the building. Don’t think school administration offices operate within?

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville Over Time

I too, have been curious about the Lower Melville Schoolhouse that was on the S/E corner of Duryea & Maxess Rd that is witnessed as late on a 1984 aerial.Very obvious on the older aerials that a path was north from Ruland Rd, across the bridge towards the school. An image of the school was captured by Ron Ridolph around 1980, I then came across an older image, maybe from the 1970’s. Below is 3 images ( 2 from the site here in 2010, when none of us ‘met’ Maureen Standish yet. The 3rd one courtesy of Half Hollow Hills Library )

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville Over Time

My favorite drainage image : )

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville Over Time

I’m fairly certain that the square openings towards the base of the abutment were for drainage. Too bad we didn’t check this out in 2005 when most of the dirt was cleared away, possible there was a stub of old drain pipe on the back side. Below are some LIMP bridges with square openings.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Ezekiel Smith Farmway Bridge in Melville Over Time

Got in to Facebook site now.

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Art - Being a Levittown resident should grant access. Myself a non-resident, access was granted with the inclusion indicating LIMPPS membership.

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Can’t access the Facebook page.  I have NOT requested membership and it’s NOT pending.  Do I YAHOO!? - hell, no! - nor FB -nor do I intend to!  We should NOT have to access FB or any other social media to view LIMP material!  Determined Dinosaur, III
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Howard Kroplick

Sam III, it is a moderated page. If you state you are interested in the Motor Parkway in Levittown they will let you join.

Howard I

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Can’t access the Facebook page.  I’ve requested membership and its pending.

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Check out the 77 comments on this Levittown Facebook Page responding to this post: https://www.facebook.com/groups/236844036349654/2846665938700771/?comment_id=2847667278600637

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Caroline St posts location in blue on the 1960 topo map, within the hilly area (top photo below).
Also, it appears the Nibbe bridge had outlived the original Powell bridge by some years. In the 1956 survey (bottom photo below), Nibbe is indicated abandoned while Powell had already received an upgrade. Nibbe must have stood until the late ‘50s unlike previously thought to have survived into the ‘40s.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Motor Parkway in Relation to the Seaford-Oyster Bay Expressway

Well, I’m not as embarrassed as I expected to be; misery loves company.  As to the air field; Joe, what “old flying club property”, please?  It’s NOT the LIACC, which was a mile to the east, just west of Jerusalem Ave., where the Elija School is now.  Was there another field in the area, once?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Ray Brown - drainage basins, not reservoirs

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Remembering initially seeing this location in 1992 and wondering about all the extra pavement. Appears the video was filmed viewing west in the beginning, time looks to be late 1950’s or early 1960’s. Corner house on Pintail USED too have a view of the LIMP and perhaps a T ball field : ) Great to have this area become an official place of recreation and NOT HOUSING. Good images everyone!

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

For full disclosure, the 400+ pages I reviewed were digitized, not hard copy, making the task much easier by just clicking the next page or down arrow keys. 

And the more I review these plans, the more I appreciate the work of civil engineers and surveyers!  Without them, our research efforts would be much more limited.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Documenting the Motor Parkway in Relation to the Seaford-Oyster Bay Expressway

Nice - thanks for the additional documentation.  Just as a point of reference, in the first pic (Meenan Oil map), the red circle on the left side marked AK 1956, is where I’ve resided for the last 36 years.  House was constructed in 1955, not sure where I got the 1956 from.

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

Location - Levittown, looking north. Pintail Lane , Orchid Rd and
            Woodcock Lane . LIMP running west to east
Building- property of Nassau County, foundation presently exists
Date - 1951, the houses on Woodcock Lane appear to be newly constructed.
        Houses were built in 1951

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway

This looks like Pintail Lane Elementary School in Levittown (Island Trees) 1958-1976. Closed when enrollment steadily declined throughout its 18 years, and was still standing until the mid 1980s. The photo appears closer to 1958. North is up and the Motor Parkway Grandstand was to the right (east) about ½ mile. The parking lot and school were built directly on the Motor Parkway RoW.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1396j0_672hYkvbcNFJInbc1mXNJspD9f&ll=40.73695533993784,-73.53247817960886&z=18

From Mystery Foto #40 Solved: Pintail Elementary School in Levittown Built on the Motor Parkway