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Neat stuff Art. In the 1961 Building Schedule, does it also indicate street names in relation to building numbers? I’m particularly interested in Rice Circle and the roadway leading to it. Great hidden info that’s tough to access!

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Part 2- Mapping the Motor Parkway, Mitchel Field & Mitchel Gardens

Correction: Present day Ladenburg Lane is not an original road in the estate. Access to the estate/racetrack were gained via Valentines Rd, Plain Rd, and Westbury Rd, all of which still exists today, including the racetrack that is currently being used as the backyard to East Meadow Elementary School. I rode my bike to the racetrack a few years back and its oval shape, though interrupted at certain points, remains intact

1926 map link below

https://lrv.nassaucountyny.gov/map/?s=17&b=15&l=3B

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Great stuff here Art! I went to Nassau Community College 1970-1972 and had classes in the barracks. Many of the base buildings and remnants of the runways were still there. I drove through the property a few years ago and it’s amazing to me that several of the base buildings are still there now just rotting away. Thanks for the interesting post.

From Kleiner's Kolumn: Part 2- Mapping the Motor Parkway, Mitchel Field & Mitchel Gardens

Hope I’m not belaboring the point but I just found that I have a far better and contemporaneous, if unprovenanced, photo of a tower car in use (possibly even on the project in question), attached.  {Hey - that guy in the white shirt could be running madly away from the photog’s cat racing wildly down from the bridge!  :·) }  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

Howard, Not generally known is that the Ladenburgs and the Vanderbilts traveled in the same social circles and were at least acquainted with each other. That well publicized parade of flowered automobiles held in Newport on Sept 7, 1899 was organized by Willie’s mother, Alva. Mrs. Ladenburg participated in the event in a Stanhope driven by Jack Astor.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Dave, all of the north end of Salisbury-cum-Eisenhower Park, i.e. across OCR from Holy Rood Cemetery, between Post-cum-Merrick Ave. and Salisbury Park Drive, has been completely redeveloped.  That’s also far north of the LIMP RoW (some half-mile).  To what preserved section are you referring?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Wow, you guys are incredible w your knowledge / research.

Brian, you’ve been hanging out w frank too much. Your map skills are getting really good.

I love seeing these old Long Island pics. What’s cooler then seeing the space you grew up with before it was developed. There’s history and there’s personal history and seeing these LI locations that I’m familiar with is awesome. I get people that love history of all types but to me this beats the ancient Egyptians or Romans any day of the week!

If you drive on old country road east passing merrick ave and then look to the right (south) they have a section of the park that is preserved and really does look like this.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Hi Howard and All:          Re: Grist Mill Project // Water Source
    Please enlighten me as to the route of the water that feeds the wheel that drives
the mill.  I cannot locate a creek or source that feeds it and it would give me the
total picture of its history etc.  A wonderful project and best of luck with it !!!
                    With Best Regards Always,  Ron.
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Hi Ron,
I added several January 10, 2020 drone aerials. The source of the water flow is Silver Lake located south of the Roslyn Grist Mill.

From The Restoration of the Roslyn Grist Mill (Updated: February 27, 2020)

Oops - forgot to reference Mystery Foto #34 of 2 Aug 2015, <http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/mystery_friday_foto_33_can_you_identify_tis_section_of_the_long_island_moto>, which documents the Ladenburg property; ditto, to a lesser extent, Bridge Series #35 of 07 Aug 2013, <http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/long_island_motor_parkway_bridge_series_35_the_meadowbrook_bridge_in_east_m>; and several others.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Mayhap, Al, because it isn’t there (or no one can see it)!  I have to assume you refer to the tiny blur in line between the lone man in a white shirt (over his left shoulder) and the mill tower - covered by the “W” in “Whaleneck” in Brian’s markup.  HK, ***PLEASE***, give us bigger (*MUCH* bigger) enlargements - pretty please, pretty please with Aspartame on it.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Love that last pic, that Buick is sharp.  What a fun purchase for the affluent buyer!

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

Great “similar views”. Admiring the 22ft roadway being carved out through Eisenhower Park’s Red golf course (Aug 1908)! Art, informative view in the Oasis aerial! It’s always hidden in the forest of trees and can never tell what’s happening inside. Also never knew the racetrack was part of the estate. Always learning something new here. Great website.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Hey, no one mentioned the ever present photographers car.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Sam, Al - makes absolute sense in terms of its location.

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: The New Hyde Park Road Motor Parkway Bridge Abutment

Salisbury Plains ( now Eisenhower Park), looking northeast across Merrick Ave at the
Ladenburg estate ,farm and windmill.
Vanderbilt cup races 1908,1909, and 1910

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

This was my grandparents house property. Park lake rest home. There is now 4 houses on the property.

From Then & Now: The Annex to the Petit Trianon

Yee-hah; tol’ you so!  Was I closer on my last aerial, Art?  Shovel brigade?  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #2 Solved: The New Hyde Park Road Motor Parkway Bridge Abutment

Frank - doubt it; that work train wouldn’t have had anything to do with LIMP or posts.  The ties were all replaced for the test and you can see old and new ties in the two piles by the track.  It’s single track - no siding; that last car is over-width because of the work platform.  Also spotted two more details.  1. - Where’s the ubiquitous water supply pipe?  2. - the back of the Buick is NOT carrying barrels; that’s a “mother-in-law” (jump or dickey ) seat (see 1908 Buick 10 Runabout pic attached - need better pic of S&W car)!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge

*Location & Orientation:  East Meadow, NY, viewing northeast. Ladenburg Estate in the distance. The LIMP is visible just west of the future Meadowbrook Pkwy Bridge

*Visible road with photographers Buick:  Merrick Ave aka Whaleneck Rd.

*VC races here:  1908, 1909 & 1910.

From Mystery Foto #5 Solved: The Motor Parkway West of Merrick Avenue Under Construction in 1908

Sam - Could be two separated piles of RR ties and posts. Note the different color wood on the two stacks.

From Mystery Foto #4 Solved: A Never Before Published Photo from the Newbridge Road Motor Parkway Bridge