Vanderbilt Cup Races

Howard, good luck with the repaired Black Beast. I’m looking forward to the live stream of the parade.

From The Alco Black Beast Roars Again!

One post card gives a Brief history of Duryea automobiles.
While in Reading Pa I saw this plaque to Charles Duryea for a Race he won Climbing MT Penn and though it was worth sharing.

From Kleiner's Korner: Humorous Postcards from the Helck Family Collection

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And a tucker in the back!

From The Alco Black Beast Roars Again!

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Crazy collection in that building.

From The Alco Black Beast Roars Again!

Ray Evernham:

The Beast! I was lucky enough to get a ride in this incredible car while shooting AmericarnaTV with Howard.

https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/behind_the_scenes_velocity_channels_americarna_vanderbilt_cup_race_episode

From The Alco Black Beast Roars Again!

Bill G:

I was / am a professional artist (oil painter) and photographer.

It is hard to tell from the photo but it appears to be a watercolor painting.

My personal opinion concerning putting it in a back lit panel box is don’t do it. It will probably degrade the image and fade the colors. I suspect that the loss of color clarity in the bottom left corner might be attributed to the lightbox. As to restoring it…without a better photo image of the painting, it is difficult to tell the extent of the damage. Also sometimes the cost of restoration vs the actual value of the painting comes into play. Depending on the value of the piece, it may not make good financial sense. Valuation should first be determined.
Bill

From Mystery Painting #21 Partially Solved: A Work of Art from the Long Island Automotive Museum

Walt Gosden

I do not ever remember seeing that painting at all at the LIAM nor at Austin’s homes in Glen Cove or on South Main Street in Southampton.

Great painting though! It should be returned to be displayed in a light box but after the paint on the glass is determined to be stable .

From Mystery Painting #21 Partially Solved: A Work of Art from the Long Island Automotive Museum

As long as this thread is re-opened, I seem to have overlooked a great Pegaso story on my own site, <http://sbiii.com/automot2.html#woodlite>, and scroll *UP* two paragraphs.  The garage noted (looted) was in North Shore Acres in Glen Head.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Two Pegaso Z-102s Parked at the 1953 Bridgehampton Races

Both sports cars are Pegaso’s….Built in Spain by the new truck manufacturer Pegaso….The dark painted car is a Z-102 with a body by Touring (Italy).....Second car is one of two Serra built cars with a bubble back backlight known as the ‘Cupulas’. Too the color was Premrose and known as the Rosa D’ Te…....The car show survives today and has been recently restored…..

From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Two Pegaso Z-102s Parked at the 1953 Bridgehampton Races

All Comments are now open for this weekend’s Mystery “Painting”.

From Mystery Painting #21 Partially Solved: A Work of Art from the Long Island Automotive Museum

The Church in the background immediately reminded me of the one at Storrowton Village in Springfield, Mass., down to the gaslight in front of it (with some artistic licenses).  In addition I found an interesting obituary which lends credence to a Springfield location:  Obituary - Springfield Union, Springfield, Massachusetts, 6 Oct 1970: Retired Bank Cashier Succumbs at 66 // Clyde P. Jones, 66, of 66 Warren St., West Springfield, died yesterday in Springfield Medical Center. Born in Worthington, Sept. 21, 1904, he had made his home in West Springfield for the past 40 years. He was employed as a cashier at the Commercial Trust and Bank Co. and later was the cashier at the Hathaway Bakeries.
He then owned and operated Jones’ Variety Store in West Springfield for 15 years, retiring in 1958.

From Mystery Painting #21 Partially Solved: A Work of Art from the Long Island Automotive Museum

Thanks, Art.  Bedford St. seemed unsure where to settle down, eh?  Moses’ NSP sure messed up this area of Westbury!  It was fun knowing I lived so close to a major part of the VCR course and following the development of its history on these blog posts.  Nothing beat living in Mineola, though, where I biked the LIMP RoW from Searingtown to Roslyn Road often and hiked all of it in Nassau, and working in Plainview and Farmingdale near the Maxess/Ruland Road segment and in Hauppauge only a block north of the RoW near Washington Avenue.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: The 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Commission Headquarters on Jericho Turnpike, Westbury

Art, also interesting the road heading east from dead man’s curve towards Ronkonkoma, with an added toll lodge (extension to Conklin Av?). The course labels the LIMP north of dead man’s curve as a county road. The map also includes the Massapequa lodge, but leaves out the Bethpage lodge.

From The Bridges of the Vanderbilt Cup Races (1908-1910)

Here’s some more of the message that I could decipher - my additions are in caps & brackets:  “Dear Alf,  We arrived here at 9:00 am [A.M.] and [HAVE] to [HANG] around this depot until 3:00 this afternoon for our [TRAIN] to Des Moines. Get there at 8:40 [should read 8:45] tonight. Lonely (?) Not ? ?  Daisy”

From Kleiner's Korner: Humorous Postcards from the Helck Family Collection

From Art Kleiner:
I recently came across this map from Automobile Topics, September 17, 1910 showing the course but noting the bridges that went over or under the Parkway and locations of telephones used to call in the positions of the racers.  I also find interesting the road directly beneath the grandstand.

From The Bridges of the Vanderbilt Cup Races (1908-1910)

From Art Kleiner:
Two more, pre-Northern State Parkway.  1914 and 1927, both Belcher-Hyde.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: The 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Commission Headquarters on Jericho Turnpike, Westbury

Sam - two more maps of the area - 1939 Dolph & Stewart and 1946 Hagstrom.  Windsor Street is named Bedford on both maps.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: The 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Commission Headquarters on Jericho Turnpike, Westbury

I read that Peter Helck sketched advertising posters for companies, businesses.

I’m trying to make out Daisy’s note to Al. Maybe others can see the script words I can’t:

Dear Alf,  We arrived here at 9:00 am and ?  to ?  around this depot until 3:00 this afternoon for our ? to Des Moines. Get there at 8:40 tonight. Lonely (?) Not ? ?  Daisy

From Kleiner's Korner: Humorous Postcards from the Helck Family Collection

Even if I was turned around, pegged it pretty close!  Love that map; sure wish it extended a bit further south.  I lived, just before moving up here, north of the “i” in Windsor (now Canterbury) Street, across Advent from the church and the Meeting and the “feel” of the area, as in my pic above, is still right for the old VCR RoW along the tree-lined Jericho Pike there.  That track was still there when I was younger and the trace of it is still evident.  Love these posts, Howard, Art, et al/Al!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: The 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Commission Headquarters on Jericho Turnpike, Westbury

It is likely that this was the Commission’s onsite headquarters adjacent to the grandstand. The Garden City Hotel was the off-site headquarters.

From Mystery Foto #20 Solved: The 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Commission Headquarters on Jericho Turnpike, Westbury