Vanderbilt Cup Races

Howard, It seems the primary reason for the sale of the Club was that they were literally surrounded by residential development. At their last meeting in March 1950 it was announced that they were looking to establish a new field somewhere between Commack and Bayshore.

From Mystery Foto #39 Solved: The Long Island Aviation Country Club (Circa 1940-1945)

Not sure if the person in the attached photo (Edward R. Thomas) is the same person of which my comment above refers, but the dates would suggest it is.  From The Automobile of Dec., 1901. 

Driving the “White Ghost” Thomas would be the cause of several accidents, with at least two fatal, one a 7 year old boy in NYC and the other a woman in Italy (after swearing he would never drive again).  Photo from The Automobile, Dec. 1901

More details can be found here. 
https://observer.com/2016/02/meet-one-of-the-first-drivers-to-mow-down-a-pedestrian/

From Willie K.'s Cars #1: The 1900 23-HP Daimler "White Ghost"

The Horseless Age, Vol. 17, No. 25, June 27, 1906, p. 940 states: “The Mineola Motor Car Co., Mineola, Long Island, have opened a garage and repair shop on Jericho turnpike, opposite Krug’s Hotel.  P.P. Easton is president and R.L. Hall manager.”  I think this helps to support my opinion as to its location.

From Kleiner's Korner: A Garage on the Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

From Gary Hammond

From Kleiner's Korner: A Garage on the Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Art, I took another look, and the turreted building in the 1908 photo also appears in the 1910 photo, but farther down Jericho Turnpike.  Actually, both garage buildings appear to be on the southwest corner of Jericho, opposite, but west of Krug’s location, not on the southeast side as you suggested.  If you check the attached photo from VCR blog 5/13/2013, I believe you can see the Garage just behind the peaked roof building on the left side.  And if you look at the 1910 photo, on the far (left) side of the flat roofed building you can see part of the angled roof of the peaked roof building.

From Kleiner's Korner: A Garage on the Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Art,  I believe that the building shown in the 1906 photo is just past the building you circled in the 1910 photo.  They are 2 different structures - the 1906 building was a frame structure, the circled building appears to be a brick structure.  However, if you compare the window size & arrangement by enlarging the 1910 photo you will see the Mineola Motor Car building next door.  The 1910 photo shows a angled flat roof building, which I believe is correct.  However, the 1908 photo points to a peaked roof building which I believe is a totally different building.  So, if you can definitely confirm the 1910 photo location, you can also confirm the 1906 location.  What do you think?

From Kleiner's Korner: A Garage on the Vanderbilt Cup Race Course

Howard, Did some clearing this morning west of the parking field off of Raymond Ct. I coincidently met 2 Garden City officials there. They told me that the Village is going to clear the southside of Parkway ROW west of the parking field starting with the concrete portion working east to west, sooner than later.

From Update: A Proposal to the Village of Garden City To Restore the Motor Parkway Concrete Posts Near Their Parking Lot

According to this article in “The Automobile” of Sept., 1902, the White Ghost was a key factor in a case of marital distress.

From Willie K.'s Cars #1: The 1900 23-HP Daimler "White Ghost"

From “The Automobile” magazine of June, 1902.

From Willie K's 1902 40-HP Mercedes Simplex in the Mercedes-Benz Museum in Stuttgart

Mystery Foto #39… I can only answer the kudos question identifying the plane on the left. It was the General Aircraft Skyfarer.

From Mystery Foto #39 Solved: The Long Island Aviation Country Club (Circa 1940-1945)

this is the LI Aviation Country Club in Hicksville NY.located between Woodbury Rd and the LIRR. clubhouse to the south.
Charles Lindbergh and Grumann himself were members.  Lindy landed &took; off from here in 1932 post his childs kidnapping. Taught Ann Morrow to fly here. 
By the looks of the poorly maintained diving board probably post WW II prior to closing.
LIMP was nearby

From Mystery Foto #39 Solved: The Long Island Aviation Country Club (Circa 1940-1945)

Another possibility would be Jack Eichenbaum, the Queens Borough Historian.

From Queens Motor Parkway Renovation Update: Oldest road in country to be as good as new

Aviation Country Club of Long Island in today’s Levittown. Photographer facing to the east. The LIMP passed right the front of the Club and hanger. The start/finish line of the Vanderbilt Cup Races was directly across the street.  Lindbergh taught his wife to fly there. Other famous aviation pioneers include Walter Beech, DuPont family members, L R Grumman, Sherman Fairchild and Jacqueline Cochran. Year of photo 1940’s (guess)

From Mystery Foto #39 Solved: The Long Island Aviation Country Club (Circa 1940-1945)

At the present day corner of crocus and blacksmith lanes

From Mystery Foto #39 Solved: The Long Island Aviation Country Club (Circa 1940-1945)

Long Island Aviation Country Club (Hicksville Aviation Country Club) 1929-1948, looking East in Levittown (Island Trees). Grass airfield to the left of photo is where take offs/landings occured. There were no asphalt runways in this airport to accomodate pioneering aviators Lindbergh and Grumman, among others here—-> https://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/the_1940_membership_of_the_long_island_aviation_club

I’m sure Earhart and Rickenbacker also visited but I can’t prove it.

The Long Island Motor Parkway (unseen here) is just to the right of this photo, running east-west alongside the airfield country club. The 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup races had a predominant grandstand also to the right of this photo, but slightly behind this photographer, on the west side of LIMP.

I’ll leave the date to the experts.

From Mystery Foto #39 Solved: The Long Island Aviation Country Club (Circa 1940-1945)

I would suggest starting with Councilman Grodenchik, as this was his initiative.

From Queens Motor Parkway Renovation Update: Oldest road in country to be as good as new

Alex Tremulis assigned the ashtray project to Phil Egan. The various revisions to the original car design were most likely done to make them more accurate to the dimensions used on the pre-production vehicles.

I’ve seen a couple bases without the “Tucker” script, but if I recall correctly, oftentimes the Tucker script was ground off by angry potential dealers, customers, and stock purchasers who had lost money on their deposits and transactions. Rather than constantly looking at the Tucker name, they were left with just the dream the model car represented.

It would be great to see the individual correspondence between Tucker Corp. and Budds. Who at Tucker lead the project with Budds?
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Howard Kroplick

Steve, I will be posting all the correspondence in future posts.

From Tucker Discovery: Original Tucker Ash Tray Sets from Their Manufacturer and Their Tooling Molds

Sam III, well stated my friend.
My question is - did the historian for the village of Garden City have an opinion about this? did he object?  By NY State law villages have to have an appointed historian , - no word ? “sounds of silence” ? Nassau County historian - any opinion?

From Update: A Proposal to the Village of Garden City To Restore the Motor Parkway Concrete Posts Near Their Parking Lot

As it says on my LIMP pages, “BULLDOZERS ARE SUCH INDISCRIMINATE REVIONISTS!”  *IF* the RoW was “only” covered over, perhaps this can be undone some day (HA - some chance!).  Sam, III

From Update: A Proposal to the Village of Garden City To Restore the Motor Parkway Concrete Posts Near Their Parking Lot

Meredith’s idea of resin copies is an excellent idea What an amazing find

From Tucker Discovery: Original Tucker Ash Tray Sets from Their Manufacturer and Their Tooling Molds