Vanderbilt Cup Races

Thanks Ariejan.  Actually this was the first article I had seen about the Wrightsville Beach race, no others appear to have been written in the trade publications except in the local NC papers.  But for some reason I never saved the accompanying picture.  So glad you shared it here.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 5 - The Rise of the Automobile in my New Home State (North Carolina): A 1907 Race on the Beach

It is always interesting to read about lesser known events like this one. I was lucky to find a photo of Herbst in the winning Maxwell, for some reason not taken on the beach itself (The Automobile December 5, 1907 p.866).

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 5 - The Rise of the Automobile in my New Home State (North Carolina): A 1907 Race on the Beach

Although the only part that’s visible is the steering wheel, a Vanderbilt Cup Racer is being officially weighed prior to the running of the race. For the 1906 race, cars could not weigh more than 2,204 pounds. The photo was taken on the scale at the Garden City Coal & Wood yard. The date is probably October 5, 1906 - the day before race day. After passing the weigh-in, a car had its wheel stamped by an official. (see attached photo)

From Mystery Friday Foto #8 Solved: Weighing a race car prior to the 1904 Vanderbilt Cup Race in Garden City

This blog is almost 10 yrs old lol! Glad it’s been given life again, forgot what a great image it is of the parkway back then. Don’t like when it comes to being right or wrong, but I’m glad you cleared this up Al : )

From CSI Report: Anatomy of a Rare Motor Parkway Dix Hills Photo

Two more from just after the 1st midget/horse track was built on top of the 36/37 courses.

From 1938 Aerials of Roosevelt Raceway from the Cradle of Aviation

Brian,  Frank, I checked my notes.  You guys are right !  Starting in 1910, 4 inches or so of concrete was put as a base and covered with about 2 inches of bituminous (asphalt like) material. Parkway said it was done this way because it gave a better ride and easier on the vehicle especially the tires.

From CSI Report: Anatomy of a Rare Motor Parkway Dix Hills Photo

Brian is correct, concrete under asphalt. We swept it to reveal the under layer of concrete. Sacrilege if we chopped that concrete. We had the tools to do so. Al, please fill us in

From CSI Report: Anatomy of a Rare Motor Parkway Dix Hills Photo

Where Frank and I uncovered is definitely on the former LIMP. Then I don’t know what the whitish pavement is that’s definitely beneath the much darker asphalt. Whitish pavement is a harder material than the asphalt. Wasn’t rock etc which is beneath my asphalt driveway. We can tell that the whitish pavement used to be uniform/together, but separating now.

From CSI Report: Anatomy of a Rare Motor Parkway Dix Hills Photo

Brian,  The Parkway did not use any concrete east of Round Swamp Road.

From CSI Report: Anatomy of a Rare Motor Parkway Dix Hills Photo

A note of clarification thanks to reader Allen Haywood: The second “Buggymobile” by Gilbert S. Water was most probably the original with some parts replaced.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 4 -The Rise of the Automobile in my New Home State (North Carolina)

Nice job, Dan! Frank Femenias and I uncovered original pavement in a similar way as you guys did, couple of years ago. Below is a screenshot of your and our locations ( white arrow > and white asterisk * ) Frank created this Google Map for this website, check it out if you haven’t already.

From CSI Report: Anatomy of a Rare Motor Parkway Dix Hills Photo

How much is the state set worth I just received it I would like to know how much torque

From Mystery Foto #29 Partially Solved: A Homan Motor Vehicle Trophy Owned by Henry Austin Clark, Jr.

I just got these I was wondering how much they was worth

From Mystery Foto #29 Partially Solved: A Homan Motor Vehicle Trophy Owned by Henry Austin Clark, Jr.

I just got these I was wondering how much they was worth

From Mystery Foto #29 Partially Solved: A Homan Motor Vehicle Trophy Owned by Henry Austin Clark, Jr.

Thanks Sam, I’m in Leland (Compass Pointe), outside of Wilmington.  I share your sentiments about NC!

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 1 - The Vanderbilt Connection and the Rise of the Automobile in my New Home State - North Carolina

Thanks, guys for the great conversations! Hope to be at the Motor Parkway Preservation Society meet at the Bethpage IF AND WHEN IT RESUME??

From Mystery Friday Foto #6 Solved: Henry Austin Clark, Jr. visiting Lynhurst in Tarrytown in his 1912 Simplex Toy Tonneau in1970

I owned a 1937 Chrysler Custom Imperial with overdrive.I purchased it for a chauffer who got it from his employer. I was 19 at the time and my friends spread the rumor that I was a gangster. I had a lot of enjoyment from that car.

From The 1937 Chrysler Automatic Overdrive

Hi klenier
Ok so where do you live? I,m in Wilmington the north end Porter neck, it is nice that someone else from LI, lives here and likes the Vanderbilt’s and the wilmington area. Looking forward to reading your blog about NC ,interesting information ,I like history. I have lived here for 11years after we retired from working on LI, for 45 years. Love it there, and the taxes are so low.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 1 - The Vanderbilt Connection and the Rise of the Automobile in my New Home State - North Carolina

Mystery Foto #7… The auto in the photo is a 1912 ALCO 12, 4 cylinder Touring Car. And of course ALCOs won the Vanderbilt Cup at least twice.
The driver of the Mystery car is Dick Hovey.
Passenger, Kathleen Carson, former Miss Donedin, Florida

From Mystery Friday Foto #7 Solved: A 1912 Alco Convertible Touring Car driven by Dick Hovey

Thanks Tom.  What part of NC are you in?  I’m outside of Wilmington.  By the way, there’s a book that was published in 1990 by Robert E. Ireland titled “Entering the Auto Age - The Early Automobile in North Carolina, 1900 - 1930”.  Its 32 years old, but you might find it interesting.

From Kleiner's Korner: Part 4 -The Rise of the Automobile in my New Home State (North Carolina)