Vanderbilt Cup Races

I cant wait to see #1044 on MOTOR WEEK,

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the Porter-Knight info

From Greg O's Garage; The F.R.P. automobile built in Port Jefferson

I missed this one so late to the party. I tried to track down a FRP “bitsa” a few years ago and some info and the Porter- Knights at Indy and Maywood. It was for the Auto Racing on Long Island Photo show a few years ago at the Port Jefferson Village Center. I believe I also used them on the Port Jefferson Hillclimb Facebook site ( shameless promotion)

From Greg O's Garage; The F.R.P. automobile built in Port Jefferson

I think that might be the DeDietrich driven by Arthur Duray with Frankville as the mechanician in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race. They finished 9th. in that race. Based on the shadows of the trees, it looks like the car is heading west with the photographer facing northeast. The location could be along North Hempstead Turnpike between Glen Cove Road and the East Norwich turn at Oyster Bay Road.

From Mystery Friday Foto # 9 Solved: The #2 De Dietrich driven by Arthur Duray in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Thank you for posting this excellent history. In my capacity as Director Emeritus of the Seal Cove Auto Museum and admitting that the F.R.P. is my favorite car in the Museum’s collection, let me add some more background.

In October 1975, the F.R.P. was sold to Tom Dawson, Purchasing Agent for Bill Harrah. The car is featured in “Harrah’s Automobile Collection, One man’s tribute to the great automobiles of the World” by Dean Batchelor. The book states: “The car at the top of Harrah’s want-list… was the F.R.P.” The book describes Dawson’s acquisition of the F.R.P. for Harrah in detail. Later, an issue called “Harrahscope,” ran a full-page feature about the car… “Harrah’s Finds’ Most Wanted’ Auto; Elusive F.R.P. Touring.”

The F.R.P. is also featured in Automobile Quarterly, Volume 31, No. 4, Summer 1993.

With the demise of Bill Harrah and the sale of many of his cars, the F.R.P. went to Mr. Charles Mallory of Connecticut, who later donated it to the Collier Automotive Museum. When the Collier Museum closed, the F.R.P. was donated to the Seal Cove Auto Museum in October 1994.

A 2-seater raceabout replica was later assembled from leftover parts; Seal Cove’s F.R.P. is the sole survivor.

The Seal Cove Auto Museum opens for the season on May 1st. https://www.sealcoveautomuseum.org/

From Greg O's Garage; The F.R.P. automobile built in Port Jefferson

Wonderful article Howard.
I “only” knew of the FRP and Only but this article goes further.  Great history.
Thank you—
Gerry

From Greg O's Garage; The F.R.P. automobile built in Port Jefferson

Great stuff Howard, thanks for increased clarification of Vanderbilt history!

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Great post Howard! A lot of unknowned facts about the big “LIE.” Growing up in Queens in the ‘70’s, the Bowne tree near Kissena Park was the oldest at the time, I dont believe it still exists.
Brian, the newly constructed LIE just plowed through the landscape, disregarding any historical features that were present at the time. That is most unfortunate.

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These are the aerials I meant to post here. There neat because you can see the LIE under construction along with the original LIMP in 1962. The website will likely be easier to view on a computer rather than a phone.

https://gisapps.suffolkcountyny.gov/gisviewer/

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I was able to screenshot a couple of aerials of this area in 1962. Neat because the LIE is being built, the Bagatelle Nursery is in operation, the Radio Tower is visible and the LIMP of course. If you want to visit the website, think you’ll have better luck on a computer rather than a phone.

https://gisapps.suffolkcountyny.gov/gisviewer/

From Greg O's Garage: Newly discovered Motor Parkway remnants in Wheatley Heights

The car is a 1905 De Dietrich (France).  The driver is Arthur Duray, with mechanician Frankville.  They are competing in the 1905 VCR.  They finished 9th in the 8th lap when the race was called.  I’m still researching the location of this picture but so far my best guess is that this is Glen Cove rd with the photographer facing north.  The slightly inclined shoulder on the left between the road and the fence seem to be consistent with some parts of Glen Cove rd.

From Mystery Friday Foto # 9 Solved: The #2 De Dietrich driven by Arthur Duray in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I am only going to take a guess on the location. 
Current Lakeville Road heading south.  Willie K’s estate is to the left. 
1906 VCR.

From Mystery Friday Foto # 9 Solved: The #2 De Dietrich driven by Arthur Duray in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race

So little is known about the dozens of vehicle manufacturers once located on Long Island. Also, very few examples survive.  Other than the Fulton Truck at the Cradle of Aviation Museum (donated by Al Velocci), I don’t know of any still preserved on L.I.  Thanks for compiling this info. - just glad that Walter McCarthy had saved the brochure and other documents!

From Greg O's Garage; The F.R.P. automobile built in Port Jefferson

Here’s a 1947 Aerial of Idle Hour. If you visit the website, zoom in to view the estate with very good detail.  https://gisapps.suffolkcountyny.gov/gisviewer/

From Greg O's Garage; A Flying 'Feild' at William K. Vanderbilt Sr's Idle Hour

This could be the French De Dietrich #2 130hp racer driven by Arthur Duray with mechanician Frankville by his side during the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race on 14Oct1905. Photographer is standing on the east side of today’s Lakeville Rd looking NNW besides the wrought iron fence surrounding Willie K’s Deepdale Estate (approx 560 acres). The racer just turned left from I.U. Willets Rd and heading south on Hyde Park Rd (Lakeville Rd) The De Dietrich finished in 9th place averaging 55mph throughout the race.

From Mystery Friday Foto # 9 Solved: The #2 De Dietrich driven by Arthur Duray in the 1905 Vanderbilt Cup Race

I was the one who removed the painting when I was working for my father
My father’s company was NJS carpentry and we were renovating that floor for senator Bensteins law office I am pretty sure and it was around 1990 or before
There was a cork mural behind it that I think might still be there .
I had it in my basement for about 5-6 weeks and was asked to bring it back so I did

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That is wonderful to see the Tucker and the Tucker family getting some much deserved recognition.
Stephanie and her team need to do a feature on Bette Noir also !

From Greg O's Garage: A preview of PBS' MotorWeek feature on Tucker 1044

Ofter wondered if the 49 Studebaker borrowed Tucker’s design.

From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: The Tucker Tin Goose at a 1947 Exhibit

here’s # 44 in June 2017 before restoration at Westbury Gardens show and May 2019 after restoration at Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point

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That was Great event. Thank You

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