Vanderbilt Cup Races

From Dave Mattoon:

Thank you for sharing the Black Beast with everyone at the Klingberg show. You and your team brought a lot of life to an already lively event. You are very fortunate to have acquired the car and it is refreshing to see it being used, not as another “trailer queen”. For me I never thought I’d hear what the early race cars were like. Years ago I built the Pocher model of the 1907 Fiat. The impact of 30 600 cubic inch racers at the starting line must have made quite an impression on people who never had seen a car!

Dave Mattoon
North Windham, CT

From Highlights of the "Black Beast " at the Klingberg Vintage Motor Car Festival

Does any information or history exist as to where the 1902 Curved Dash Oldsmobile that was on the roof of the museum came from?  I’m looking for the history of it prior to 1950.

From Austin Clark, Joe Tracy, Otis Chandler and the 1904 Sports Touring Mercedes

Howard:
Wonderful to have been able to see the BB both at Greenwich and at Klingberg!  So great that you were able to actually run the car at Klingberg for the immense pleasure of large numbers of spectators at Klingberg, too.

And weren’t we lucky to have such splendid weather at both events?

Thanks for the images of Greenwich.  First I’ve seen.

If I dig around long enough, I think I could find my Hertz Shelby card allowing me to rent one of the gold and black demons!

Best,
ROBERT

From Article "Black Beast Roars" & a Klingberg Vintage Motorcar Festival Highlight

...the date of this event is the 30th, not the 13th .....

Sunday, August 22, 2010

-13th Annual Vanderbilt Invitational Concours, Suffolk Conty Vanderbilt Museum, Centerport

From Update of Local Automotive Events and Mystery Photo #3

I met Austin (you never called him Henry, and those that called him “Austie” was their pet name for him , he never introduced himself as Austie) when I was 18 years old. In the early to mid 1970s I was his librarian for several years at his private library in his home in Glen Cove. He was a man with a Victorian sense of loyalty to his friends, and did not suffer fools lightly. He could easily been a character from a novel by Charles Dickens. He encouraged my interest in research and writing about pre WWII vehicles, and was one of the first collectors that took an interest in old trucks and saved many of them. Oh the stories I could tell about the situations I got involved with him…..........

From Postcards from the Long Island Automotive Museum (#1-6)

Hi Jean-Yves:

Congrats! France wins again!

Please send your mailing address to .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) and I will send you signed copies of “Vanderbilt Cup Races of Long Island” and The Long Island Motor Parkway”.

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/books/

Enjoy,

Howard

From Update of Local Automotive Events and Mystery Photo #3

1910 Vanderbilt Cup the Royal #30 of P.H. Jardine…

From Update of Local Automotive Events and Mystery Photo #3

Great stuff!

From Postcards from the Long Island Automotive Museum (#1-6)

Hi Pierre and Richard:

Here is a link to information on the Long Island Automotive Museum’s postcards:

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/tuesday_june_15_2010_postcards_from_the_long_island_automotive_museum

Howard

From What was the Long Island Automotive Museum?

Here is a link to more posts on the Long Island Automotive Museum:

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/tuesday_june_15_2010_postcards_from_the_long_island_automotive_museum

Howard

From Film "The Long Island Automotive Museum"

Hi Art:

Thanks for the information. Here is a link to more posts on the Long Island Automotive Museum:

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/tuesday_june_15_2010_postcards_from_the_long_island_automotive_museum

Howard

From More on the Long Island Automotive Museum

i have the complete set.I like to know more about them….. year printed; value etc. Some are color , some are blk. and white.

From What was the Long Island Automotive Museum?

Looking forward to seeing/hearing your big beauty next Saturday, Howard.  In past years, there have been some 1,000 entrants at this excellent event.
ROBERT

From Press Release "Black Beast" at Klingberg in June"

Hi Michael & Jean-Yves:

You got it! This is the parade lap for the 1911 Indy 500 Race:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_Indianapolis_500

Howard Kroplick

From Mystery Photo Contest #2 Solved: 1911 Indy 500

Hi Howard,
The “Mystery photo” shows the start of the first Indianapolis 500 in 1911.
Cars:
#21 Howdy Wilcox, National
#20 Charlie Merz, National
#19 Harry Grant, Alco
#18 Eddie Hearne, Fiat

From Mystery Photo Contest #2 Solved: 1911 Indy 500

Indianapolis Motor Speedway, 500 Mile Race, May 30, 1911, left to right National, National, Alco and Fiat.
When are you going to start asking difficult questions, Howard?
😉

From Mystery Photo Contest #2 Solved: 1911 Indy 500

I remember visiting the museum in the summer of 1964, or thereabouts, with my parents. We were returning from a trip to Montauk Point. I believe there was at least one Fiat Abarth (Red) in front, which caught my eye as we drove by, unaware of the museum. I asked ny father to turn around and investigate.
I especially remember the Adams Farwell auto powered by a radial engine. Very powerful imagery, the museum was quite an addition to my life experience, and we came upon it by accident. What a pity that the museum no longer exists.

Bill P.

From More on the Long Island Automotive Museum

From Fred Puhn, National City, CA:
“The V8-RI that Phil Caded owned was #4501. It had been wrecked and rebodied in 1935. When I visited him about 15 years ago his original engine was present out of the car. I have no idea what happened to it.

The spare engine that George Weaver had was the one out of my car #4502. It last ran when Tommy Hinnershitz had it fail during practice for the 1946 Indy 500. The car with its bad engine was sold by owner Milt Marion to Andy Granatelli. Andy sold the engine to George Weaver and they put an Offy in the Maserati. I managed to buy my original engine back after the Weaver car was restored.”

From "Babe" Stapp: Driver of the Topping-Miller Special and Maserati V8Ri

From Dave Belden, Woodstock, CT:
“I believe that this particular V8-Ri is the one that was in the hands of Phil Cade of the Boston area from the fifties or earlier until maybe ten years ago. It ran with a Chrysler hemi engine during all of this time; I’m told that the original engine had gone to George Weaver as a spare for his V8-Ri. Cade primarily road raced the car though I was present at a dirt track drag race in R.I. in the early ‘50s when he showed up with the car. He was towing it with a Duesenberg or something similarly impressive that day and got quite a bit of attention among the pre-war Ford hot rods.

While in Cade’s hands the body of the car was always rough; the proverbial bag of walnuts. I was lucky enough to be at Monaco this year and the car is nice with straight panels and an original appearing engine.”

From "Babe" Stapp: Driver of the Topping-Miller Special and Maserati V8Ri

Hi
I bought the Scorpion from Lew Flink (not Fink).
Want to talk about it?
Dick

From The Dagradas and the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup Race at Roosevelt Raceway