Vanderbilt Cup Races

#23 is the correct car, but the driver is Joe Thorne again on this occasion - probably taking a practice spin.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Starting Lineup for the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup Race

#22 is not Ted Horn and the Hartz/Miller, but Joe Thorne in a 1931 Miller, the former 16-cylinder car now fitted with a 4-cylinder Sparks-Miller engine. This car ran as #38 in the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Starting Lineup for the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup Race

#17 is, in fact, #12 again, the 6CM Maserati!

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Starting Lineup for the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup Race

#12 is not a V8RI Maserati, but a 6CM - very different cars!

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Starting Lineup for the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup Race

#2 is the correct car, but a 1937 picture - the colour has changed from white to silver, and the driver is Jimmy Snyder.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Starting Lineup for the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup Race

The no. 28 Bugatti T51 owned by McClure Halley was driven by Dave Evans, not Dale Evans. This was a typo in Joel Finn’s American Roadracing book and repeated here.

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Exclusive: Starting Lineup for the 1936 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Hi Dave:

Thanks for the comment.

I will give you a call next week.

Happy 2011!

Howard

From The Top Twenty 2010 Posts on VanderbiltCupRaces.com

hi Howard, very interesting commentaries on the alco black beast and the various locations and events….wishing you and your family a very happy new year and hope to continue seeing your emails .....maybe one day you could do a 3-4 page report on your travels with the ALCO black beast and space permitted we will print it in the ARPO (association of retired police officers)newsletter which is printed every month and sent to all 1200 members retired from the NCPD…thanks again,...Dave Fischer (516)922-4115

From The Top Twenty 2010 Posts on VanderbiltCupRaces.com

Thankyou once again for another great year, Howard. I’m looking forward to what you will sharing with us history tragics in 2011.

Happy New Year!

From Another Record Year for VanderbiltCupRaces.com and December 2010 Highlights

Hi Penny:

Here’s information on the 1909 #14 Fiat driven by Eddie Parker:

http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/sunday_september_5_2010_a_tour_of_the_1909_vanderbilt_cup_race_course_with_

Howard

From June 2010 Highlights on VanderbiltCupRaces.com

Happy Holidays Howard and to all LIMPers out there. One question about Nibbe’s stone. Is it located on Revere Av and Norcross Av in Bethpage? That was an amazing find! Everyone have a Happy and Safe New Year!!

From The Bethpage Challenge Part IV: A Few More Gems From Deadman's Curve

Gentlemen:
The Bugatti is chassis no. 4700, a standard T35A with owner Walter Gerner. The car raced with some frequency in the prewar ARCA (Automobile Racing Club of America), but to my knowledge did not appear at the Vanderbilt Cup Race. It may have been there as a spectator (Gerner lived on Long Island), but it did not race.
Sandy Leith
Registrar and Historian,
American Bugatti Club

From 1936 Vanderbilt Cup Race: Photos from the Nassau County Division of Museum Services

Just when I think I’ve been through your whole site, here are more rare photos of the parkway. Next best thing to a time machine!

From The Bridges of the Vanderbilt Cup Races (1908-1910)

I agree with Ken the Long Island motor sports community seems to be dumped on all the time and it seem to be okay by those that preserve land. They all seem to forget that Long Island has a rich history in motorsports or is it they don’t want to be reminded. Thanks for saving this small piece.

From Old Bethpage Restoration Motor Parkway Bridge to Receive a Cleaning

Hi Wallace:

Wallace, thanks for the memory. Clarence Mackay claimed he opposed the marriage of his daughter Ellin to Irving Berlin because it “would never last”.

He was wrong. Ellin and Irving Berlin were married for 62 years until her death in 1988:

http://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/30/obituaries/ellin-berlin-85-a-novelist-dies-the-songwriter-s-wife-of-62-years.html

Howard

From Six Degrees of Willie K: The Mackay Horse Statue and Saturday's Cocktail Party

Indeed great photos!

From The Bethpage Challenge Part II: Building the Central Avenue Motor Parkway Bridge

Agree and thanks!

From Old Bethpage Restoration Motor Parkway Bridge to Receive a Cleaning

Howard, Art, Pat,and Brian (and so many others); thank you all so much for your kind words.  It’s been great fun and I’ve met and worked with great people.  It is so very rewarding to see the ongoing progress; keep it going!  Blame it all on Bob Miller, who I’ve known since around 1960; he inveigled me into attending an early lecture he was giving on some old road called the Motor Parkway.  What is NOT fun, though, is painstakingly restoring each of my 485+ web pages, although I’ve made some big advances here and there.  Of the ~50 LIMP pages, 10 are done and I’ll speed things up.  Better yet, I found an e-trove of old pix (including the first set in the tangle at BSP!) and think I can now retrieve the long-lost really old ones.  So, please bear with me; we’ll get there.  Sam, III

From Sad News: The Passing of Sam Berliner III

As we look at Clarence Mackay in the bosom of the eastern elite establishment, it’s interesting to remember that his father, John, an Irish Catholic immigrant with a French wife, were shunned.  Yet when Clarence’s daughter Ellin wanted to marry a Russian Jewish immigrant Clarence hired private detectives and reportedly said, “Over my dead body.” He lived, she eloped: with Irving Berlin.

(My grandparents lived in a house without plumbing by the swamps immediately below Mackay’s estate, English immigrants.  My grandfather often served as Mackay’s photographer for special events.  My aunts and my mother wore clothes Ellin outgrew.)

From Six Degrees of Willie K: The Mackay Horse Statue and Saturday's Cocktail Party

From Penny:

Happy Holidays Howard and thanks for all the time, energy and dedication you have put into this web site .

From The Bethpage Challenge Part IV: A Few More Gems From Deadman's Curve