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The six Vanderbilt Cup Races held on Long Island from 1904 to 1910 were the greatest sporting events of their day, and the first international automobile road races held in the United States. The races had a far-reaching impact on the development of American automobiles and parkways. This site provides comprehensive information on the races, the Long Island Motor Parkway and current Long Island automotive events, car shows and news.
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Yes Howard,I looked through all the particapating cars in the races and couldn’t find it anywhere,I even searched on an old car website and,I wanted to try to find out what kind of a car it is,but nothing even looked like it,as to where you sit in it,but the rest of the car looks alike. Anxious to know where it will be found by someone
From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer
This car strongly resembles the 1908 ITALA Grand Prix car, which sold at austion last year for over $2m. I saw the car racing many times during the VSCC races in England during the ‘60s driven by its owner Cecil (Sam) Clutton. The car is featured on page 48-49 in his book “The Vintage Motor Car”. It has a 12 litre, four cylinder engine - and was something to see and hear! This ITALA now has wire wheels, not wooden wheels as shown.
From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer
Sam III, you are pointing to the Central Avenue Bridge that went over both the road and the LIRR. The Nibbe Farmway Bridge was located near the bottom of the “M” on the map. The map did not indicate the bridge. These posts may be helpful: http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/tag/tag/stymus+farm
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/from_the_noel_gish_collection_postcards_from_the_vanderbilt_cup_races_long_
Howard I
From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races
Nibbe’s Hollow was north of the Stymus property. The bridge to which I refer is shown as instantly above/north of (adjacent to) the CPAve/LIRR bridge. Here, I marked up a smitch of the map:
http://sbiii.com/limppix/stymusbr.jpg
to be most specific. Is THAT the Nibbe bridge?
Sam, III
From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races
I’d go with 1906 but it’s clearly noted “Lancelot”, whatever that proves. Sam, III
From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer
Very nice presentation. The Belcher-Hyde map lets me see the part of the parkway that I used to hike on when I was a kid in the early 1950’s, living in Plainedge/North Massapequa. Thanks!
Ken
From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races
Hi Sam III, I believe you are referring to the Nibbe Farmway Bridge, the next bridge after the Central Ave/LIRR Bridge:
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/sunday_december_19_2010
Howard I
From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races
Here’s a puzzler for you folks; if you follow the LIMP RoW east/north/ward from Deadman’s Curve on the 1923 Belcher-Hyde map, the RoW crosses Central Park Avenue and the LIRR with no delineation of the major bridges there BUT then crosses what appears to be an extension of today’s Schneider Lane on a carefully inked bridge to the Wm. O. Stymus property! If this bridge is on your bridges of the Vanderbilt Cup Races page http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/tuesday_december_8_2009_the_bridges_of_the_vanderbilt_cup_races , I can’t find it (but, as you wrote, you can’t trust maps”). Sam, III
From Then & Now: Massapequa Road During the 1908-1910 Vanderbilt Cup Races
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From Long Island Car Club Directory- Sorted by Type
From Meghan F.
“Thanks again, Howard! The mystery photo post was a great idea.”
From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Driver Bob Burman and his Mechanician Jack Gable at the 1915 Indy 500 Race
@Bob: You can try to contact PreWarCar at http://www.prewarcar.com/contact.html . A lot of experts around there.
@Mark: Hi Mark! 😉
From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Driver Bob Burman and his Mechanician Jack Gable at the 1915 Indy 500 Race
Add to my previous post:
This car had a unique particularity: Eugène Brillié had conceived an engine with four cylinders and two pistons by cylinder working in opposition. It is also one of so first racing cars to use a tubular frame.
From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer
Hi Howard,
This is a Gobron-Brillié with Louis Rigolly at the wheel. This car ran the “French Gordon Bennett Elimination Trial” held on May 20, 1904 in Argonne, France (DNF, lost radiator on lap 1).
From Mystery Foto #7 Solved: Driver Louis Rigolly in a Gobron-Brillié Racer
Love the then and now photos. I like to look closely and compare.
From Long Island Motor Parkway Bridge Series #31: The "Mayan Ruins" Motor Parkway Bridge in Garden City
I agree with Elliot,there’s plenty more to it than just that,That’s nothing new to us
From Video: "The Long Island Motor Parkway, the first highway in the world"
Howard—
A really interesting pilot. Does Michael Spiter have any thoughts about increasing its running time? Never focused on the rich vs. poor man aspect of the road’s founding, but sure recognized the names Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, Morgan and Whitney.
From Video: "The Long Island Motor Parkway, the first highway in the world"
Hi Meghan, it is a pleasure. I hope more viewers will send in images of your great-grandfather!
From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Driver Bob Burman and his Mechanician Jack Gable at the 1915 Indy 500 Race
Great post, Howard. Thanks again!
From Mystery Foto #6 Solved: Driver Bob Burman and his Mechanician Jack Gable at the 1915 Indy 500 Race
I was at that show at the Klingberg, and photographed both the Cannonball and the Bête Noire. Magnificent automobiles, and a great show!
From The Corbin "Cannonball" and the Alco "Black Beast" to Meet on Saturday
Just to let you know I hope to go to the Simeone Automotive Museum for the demonstration day on Saturday,It’s also having Best of Britain Classic Car Show,100th anniversary dislaying at least 2o Aston Martin until 4/14,check out the website.
From Another Motor Parkway Landmark Disappears from View
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