Vanderbilt Cup Races

I have an update for you. In my travels I stopped to take another look,I met a neighbor,he said that it’s being kept clean by the neighbors and some other people are coming too,people were there just before I was. I’m not sure but I think some of the dirt was pushed to the sides,it might have been that way from the last time I was their. It really looks good

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Hi,
Just back from holidays and no time for researches, so from my memory:
the Fiat team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup
From left to right: Felice Nazzaro, Vincenzo Lancia (Fiats from Hollander & Tangeman) and Aldo Weilschott (owner of the car).
Photo probably taken at the end of september prior to the race.
Next to Lancia is Emanuele Cedrino. Sorry, I don’t remember the two other mechanicians… but I’m sure at least one guy will! 😉

Have a good day.
Jean-Yves

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It needs to come back to secure and public display on Long Island.

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seems a shame to just be sitting in a ‘locker’ at the smithsonian and to only come out when ‘requested’...there must be a better place for it!

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I too agree with keeping it here on Long Island,but as Bob said,the security problem

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Let’s try this:
All three cars were Fiats that competed in the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race.  Picture probably taken in September or October of 1906.
Photo #1 - Car #4 driven by Vincenzo Lancia, Finished 2nd - Mechanician was Ajassa Battista
Photo #2 - Car #8 driven by Felice Nazzaro, Finished 6th - Mechanician was Fagnaan Antonio
Photo #3 - Car #16 driven by Dr. Aldo Weilschott, Finished 17th - Mechanician was Columbo

From Mystery Foto #31 Solved: The FIAT Team for the 1906 Vanderbilt Cup Race

Fascinated by the story! Thank you very much.

Jen

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Sounds like a great idea - wonder if it was made with Mackay silver?

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Congratulations!  However, what an incredible foul-up for Hemmings!  The so-gennant “1947 De Soto” is actually a 1937 DeSoto Airflow!  Also, there is no space between “De” and “Soto” in the brand name.  Sam, III

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From Sam Berliner III:

Even though we aficionados know just what you mean, the phrase “the one and only Vanderbilt Cup” is a wee bit misleading to the general public; “the original Vanderbilt Cup” might better serve.  There’s always the 1936-37 George W. Vanderbilt, III Cup and the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup; neither one is “the” V. Cup”, but each, quite unlike the CART Cup, is very definitely “a” V. Cup.  Sam, III

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Even though we aficionados know just what you mean, the phrase “the one and only Vanderbilt Cup” is a wee bit misleading to the general public; “the original Vanderbilt Cup” might better serve.  There’s always the 1936-37 George W. Vanderbilt, III Cup and the 1960 Cornelius Vanderbilt Cup; neither one is “the” V. Cup”, but each, quite unlike the CART Cup, is very definitely “a” V. Cup.  Sam, III

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Howard -  Excellent historical background on ‘the Cup’.  I would certainly concur that it should be returned to a place of honor where it would mean the most -  Long Island.

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Jeff, here is a link to the post on the EMRA “Vanderbilt Cup”:
http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/index.php/blog/article/friday_april_24_2009_a_vanderbilt_cup_seeking

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Howard,
I agree that the Trophy should be displayed for public viewing and what a better place than it’s original home where the history began. I totally agree that historical items like these should have an appropriate place for public viewing to carrry on the history to future generations. Out of sight out of mind! Good Luck Howard.
Best regards,
Wayne Carroll Petersen
Barney Oldfield Great Great Nephew

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I would agree.  The trophy is certainly part of Long Island history.  To me it makes sense to display it at the Vanderbilt Museum here rather than storing it out of sight at the Smithsonian.
    Ken

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It would be nice to have it on Long Island, but I am not completely sure where the proper display location is at the moment.
Unfortunately, security is a bit of a problem for a 30 lb. piece of silver.

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It’s great the Smithsonian offered the “Cup” a permanent home, but I have to take issue with it being stored in a locker. I f that’s the case then return it to the family and maybe let them display it in the Long Island estate.

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Thanks for answering a question many of us had and never thought to ask. It’s certainly a pity that the cup isn’t on permanent display at the museum; absent that, it should come back to Long Island. How about on your mantle at home?

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Dear Howard,

Thanks for this very interesting story.

As I am sure you know, after WW II, there were renewed Vanderbilt Cup races held at Bridgehampton for which a trophy was given.  I had heard that it was last held by EMRA and then disappeared.  Do you know anything about this?  Was this a new “Vanderbilt Cup” that had been produced for these races ?  I am sure I saw it at some point as I was at several of those post WW II events but I do not remember it or what it looked like. 

Thanks for any information you can shed on this.

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Brilliant Idea! William K would approve too.

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