Vanderbilt Cup Races

As I’ve been saying, even though it’s the same presentation, there’s something different every time and you get to meet people that throw in something else about the presentation, that you didn’t even know about, which even amazes you, which goes to show there’s so much that you don’t know about L.I.

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Michael and Ken: I believe you’re right on with the car!
Mike: Not only a shame but the intended time frame for completion was so delayed for the major event (The 1964 World’s Fair!). I believe at this stage of his reign, Robert Moses had already lost most of his pull and influence to effectively get the job done.  Looking around, today we still live amongst his ruins, and still love it. He was truly a great leader but didn’t go without blemishes.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Thanks for these response. See ya, sooner than you think

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I did a little better on this one. I knew something about the bridge, it was built by Robert Moses and the make of car. The model and year wasn’t determined yet, or was it?

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Howard - is the well on the north or south side of the NSP?
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From Howard Kroplick:
South side.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

I got this late too but I knew the car was a 1965 Pontiac. I wasn’t sure about the bridge. It’s a shame that for all of the cost and labor to build it the bridge was in service for only seven or eight years.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Sorry I didn’t see this sooner.  I believe the car is not a 1965 GTO, but a close relative: a 1965 Pontiac Tempest.  The GTO was based on the Tempest but had a hood scoop and the letters GTO on the front.  The car pictured has neither which tells me that it’s a Tempest.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Today I learned that there were 2 bridges over NSP, and from the looks of the car it seems that it may be a Bonnevile or Tempest, the grill seems wider than the G T O and the letters in the grill appear longer than 3 letters. thanks !

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Howard, I have a question for you. On October 2 2004 there was a Centennial Vanderbilt Cup Race Celebration. I watched that film, was that you driving? and what car was that? not the Black Beast, I know, but sounded like it and think it was a smaller, model, not as long.
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From Howard Kroplick:

Ted, the car was the 1904 Pope-Toledo

.http://www.vanderbiltcupraces.com/blog/article/1904_vanderbilt_cup_race_centennial_celebration_october_2_2004

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Was I right about the bridge being built by Robert Moses along with Brian, Frank, Art and Greg? Well, I knew the car, only off by a year and not sure whether or not it’s a GTO, Bonneville or maybe even the other models that they put the logo in the grill
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From Howard Kroplick:

Yes, the bridge was built in 1931 by Robert Moses in anticipation of the building of Northern State Parkway.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

This is Robert Moses’ second bridge built over the NSP just west of NHP Rd. Not sure of its name but it was captioned as Great Neck Bridge on Harvey Kidder’s painting. The vehicle is a ‘65 Pontiac Tempest/Lemans and the one following looks like a ‘65 Mercury, both heading West on the NSP. Photographer is looking East. I’m guessing it’s 1965 but that seems too late for completion of roadway expansion in time for the World’s Fair. Good luck to all on this one.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

I have a feeling that this bridge isn’t a motor parkway bridge and it was built by Robert Moses, I just have that feeling

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Northern St. Pkwy. Facing east.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Not much more can be said about this memorable day and you were part of it, by letting it be known to the people just passing by

From Thumbs Ups for the Floral Park Vanderbilt Cup Race Historical Marker Unveiling Ceremony

This is the one of the LIMP bridges that Robert Moses agreed to construct so not to sever the LIMP while NSPkwy was being built. This overpass is just due w/o New Hyde Park Rd. This photo is facing E/B (The NSPkwy is being widened to the left of the photo, early 1960’s). I’m not enough of a car fan to know what the make is, but I do recall dreams of me driving cars that look like this; too much said I guess.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

That looks like the Motor Parkwy bridge over the Northern State a short distance west of New Hyde Park Road (seen in the background). The photographer is facing east with the 1963 Pontiac heading westbound. I believe the date of the photo was about 1964.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

Good topics for discussion, Howard.

The bridge is one that Robert Moses built going over the Northern State Parkway just west of exit 26, New Hyde Park Road which is seen in the background. 

Photographer was facing east. 

Assuming the bridges were taken down as part of the widening of the Northern State Parkway, the photo would have to have been taken in 1967 or shortly thereafter. According to several New York Times “art"icles in 1965 budgets were approved for the parkway’s widening but another article from 1969 indicates the widening actually didn’t start until 1967.  And a 1966 aerial photo shows the bridge still over the Parkway. 

The car is a 1967 Pontiac Bonneville based on its grill, the headlights being one over the other, and the placement of the Bonneville logo in the grill. 1966 and 1968 models were somewhat different; another piece of evidence the photo was taken 1967 or after.

Howard - look for my e-mail to be sent shortly with the above supporting documentation concerning the date of the photo.

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

From the heavy trees on the right (north), that should be the easternmost of the two Northern State crossings in Lakeville/New Hyde Park, at NHP Rd looking west (you can see the Lakeville bridge in the distance), with a ca. ‘59 Pontiac (vertical duals - Bonneville?) sailing by.  Date?  Nah; I’d have to look that up - no fun.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #65 Solved:The "Robert Moses" Eastern Motor Parkway Bridge Over Northern State Parkway

WHAT A KICK; thanks Howard!  I vas dere, Chollie, with Dan, III, at some race, then or thereabouts, when the Healy 100 quit and Dan transferred the numbers to his family Ford station wagon and ran that lumbering beast and won an unlimited race, to the accompaniment of very loud protests!  Later, Austie Clark let me out on the track (non-racing) and I ran some creditable laps in a stock over-square1957 Ford Anglia!  Sam, III

From Film "1957 Bridgehampton Race Circuit Inauguration"

Thank you, Howard for your continuing efforts to preserve our motorsports history.
Think Long Island auto racing museum.

From Film "1957 Bridgehampton Race Circuit Inauguration"