Vanderbilt Cup Races

Would love to reconnect with the Dingley family,

The Lytles

From For the Dingley Family: Part I- Bert Dingley and the Vanderbilt Cup Races

I arrived at this page while on my quest to find why this road was called “Bagatelle” since the word means a short instrumental piece of music of little or no consequence.
To find a mansion would bear this name, well, it would have had to belong to an educated someone of great wealth!
It would appear, it did!

From Was the "Bagatelle" Mansion in Half Hollow Hills Built by a Vanderbilt?

It was so good to read of this planned preservation/restoration work. To often landmark structures are deemed less than important. This is our heritage! once gone , it will not return and the younger generations need to be aware of what actually took place and why and when. BRAVO to Garden City on all accounts.
Yes I am a preservationist - not just for early vehicles ( I own 3 pre WWII era cars) but have been the Historian for the Village of Floral Park for over 25 years and started the Floral Park Historical Society and like my friend Howard have penned books on historical subjects. My family’s background was in construction, and I wrote the law for Floral Park on Architectural Review to keep the older structures in our village from being altered in an unsatisfactory way.

From In the Garden City News: Village Takes Bids for Toll Lodge Work

Charley Marsh
Of the seven Tuckers I’ve seen, 1044 was the only one I actually got to touch.
This was taken in 1993 when my cousin contacted Skip to let him bring his father, my uncle (with whom my father was partners in a Tucker franchise) to see the car and invited us to ride along.
May be an image of 5 people

Steve Gump
So Kool I remember going to skips and looking at that car I went to school with his son me and are friends

Steven Christopher
Stunning car. A must see

Brian Gunther
You need a new winch !!

Jeffrey Osborn
So important!

Adrenaline Motorsports Inc.  ·
Awesome car!!! Awesome story..

Harold Morgan
Sweet.

Paul Perino
Beautiful

Frank O Svaland
Awesome

Larry Haake IV
So cool!

Thomas Colla
Are there still a couple of Tuckers unaccounted for?

  Trevor Spence
Thomas Colla I believe that 1042 is technically the only “missing” car, 1018, 1023 and 1027 were all destroyed and parts of them still exist and are accounted for in that respect.

Scott Barkow
Amazing

Aaron Foreman
Beautiful Car!

Rick de Renzo

HOW WAS THIS FOUND?

Kenn Ruckey
Y’all coming near Lubbock, TX any time soon?

Preston Tucker LLC
Martin Auto Museum & Event Center we hope to visit soon!

Robert Dough
Such an amazing car! Years ahead of the tech for the time! The big 3 can be real bastards if they don’t want you in business.

From Mike & Sean Tucker: Tucker 1044 will be on display this weekend at the Misselwood Concours d'Elegance in Beverly, MA

Greg Oreiro
Not making this one, have fun guys!

Preston Tucker LLC
Greg Oreiro oh man, was looking forward to seeing you Greg. We will catch ya next time!

Robert Jones
That is very well documented, by Coach building professionals Restoration of IDA Concepts. Certainly Wish I were there to see that Adante Green hued Beauty in person.

Dave Carnevale
Robert Jones it is absolutely stunning

Terry Gibbons
GORGEOUS ????

Larry Baker
Love the Tuckers! They look similar to the Studebakers.

Paul Tallo
FYI Misselwood Concours d’Elegance is at Endicott College in Beverly, MA (not Salem as noted in the picture). https://www.misselwood.com/concours-delegance

Preston Tucker LLC
Paul Tallo correct, sorry about the typo we are staying in Salem. They are pretty close to each other
Paul Tallo
Preston Tucker LLC ???? ???? it is a great venue and I have attended the Concours. (Beverly is my hometown ????, and Salem is the school rival LOL, probably contributed to my input ????)

Kevin Borth
really wish we were close to catch this one- sometimes it stinks livin in the south lol

Dennis Boesz
Beautiful picture of two tuckers together

Mike Tucker
Dennis Boesz look closer, there are 8 of the surviving 47 cars in this photo!

Chris Busta
Was lucky enough to see this car up close, it is absolutely breathtaking! 

Scott Ackley
Are there any original unrestored survivors ?

Preston Tucker LLC
Scott Ackley we would consider Tucker 1016 and 1034 as the most original cars left. Both have had some paint and chrome work over the years but retain much of their original finishes. 1016 can be seen on display at the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI and 1034 is owned by a private collector in California who is a good friend of ours. We were lucky enough to complete some preservation work on the car together with IDA Automotive a few years ago.

Dave Carnevale
Preston Tucker LLC #1034 is the Waltz blue one that used to live in Tucker GA, right?

Ken Litchfield
Scott Ackley Here is a picture of 1016 at the Henry Ford Museum. ????
May be an image of 4 people and text

Stephen Mcnamara
Wish I could go but unfortunately I live in england would have loved to have seen them all

Tony Mazzola
My wife and I are attending and looking forward to meeting up with you on Sunday

Matt Strauss
I look forward to seeing it in person!

Paul Perino
Beautiful

Rick Cain
Third eye not blind. Wow

Bj Publicover
Beautiful

Richard Lecco
Does anybody know which Tucker car was on display at the Winter Park (Orlando area) Concours d’Elegance in central Florida around 15 years ago or so?

Michael Lofvers
I sure do Tucker #1017 at the 2011 Winter Park, FL Concourse d’ Elegance. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/...

Richard Lecco
Michael Lofvers Oh man, I think that’s me in the baseball cap and sneakers looking at it in the sixth picture! ????

Michael Lofvers
Richard Lecco that’s funny if its you. Oddly enough its not the first time that this something has happened to me. It’s a small world. Did you take any pictures?

Richard Lecco
Michael Lofvers I did, they’re buried on a hard drive somewhere, I’ll need to do some digging…come to think of it, there’s probably an album from that car show on my FB page! Funny, I was considering deleting a bunch of those albums and cutting down my footprint on FB since I never look at them and I highly doubt anybody else does, either.

Michael Lofvers
Richard Lecco if you come across any pictures of Tuckers I’d take a look at it. I try to find as many as I can so I can figure our what car it is. Also when I was at the show I find it funny when I see myself in the background.

Paul Tallo
For anybody in New England, this Saturday 7/20 is the one day a year the public can visit the Bob Bahre collection in Maine which includes Tucker #1033. Founder’s Day. Fantastic collection. Preston Tucker LLC http://www.hamlin.lib.me.us/founders_day.html

From Mike & Sean Tucker: Tucker 1044 will be on display this weekend at the Misselwood Concours d'Elegance in Beverly, MA

Brian, There was a Greylock Hall in Far Rockaway in the early 1900’s.

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway Part 3 - June, 1924

Thanks for the comments, gents.  Love the map you provided, Brian.  Especially the notation for the Petit Trianon - Little Vienna.  More research needed for that.

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway Part 3 - June, 1924

Shame this John Russell Pope structure was left to be demolished

From The Bethpage Lodge (1910-1960s): A Classic Repost from 2009

Just listed an very uncommon real photo postcard for sale. It shows a 1910 view of the Locomobile test vehicles and garage…

From Then & Now: The Locomobile Factory in Bridgeport

The map below is on Instagram page for Roslyn. Aerial captured during the construction of the LIE. Appeared familiar to me, then rotated it to North; and labeled some roads.

From The Planning and Construction of the Long Island Expressway Through the Roslyn Area: 1953 – 1959

Hi Art, like when you post historical info. Tried lookin around for a mention of Greylock Hall, but no luck. Left a screenshot of a map showing properties surrounding the lake in the 1930s, into the 1940s. Realize the inns, hotels etc would change owners. One of the properties could’ve been Greylock.

Samuel Hopes life was interesting ( besides being assaulted & mugged ) States on his obituary that while residing in Lake Ronkonkoma, he was in charge of a Lilco Substation. Maybe he did this after the parkway closed. Lilco may’ve hired him to watch guard the substation, I’m sure there were people that would try to steal wire ( people still do ) and other equipment from the substations

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway Part 3 - June, 1924

Al.  I was very familiar with that Robbins property.  When delivering mail I did a route that area.  The houses that were built there are extrodinary.  Curiously, there is still one vacant lot on the west side of “Robbins Dr!”  Imagine what the owner of said property would get for that lot.  Bob

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway Part 3 - June, 1924

Bob Allen, Your question about holdouts demanding exorbitant prices. In most cases the routing of the Motor Parkway answers that question. But… sometimes the Parkway paid the price.  One example was the purchase of the Robbins parcel on the east side of Roslyn Road to the Wheatley Golf Club. The Parkway paid roughly $3,000 an acre for the parcel on the west side of Roslyn Road and paid Robbins, who figured out what was going on, and held the last parcel to complete the Parkway in that areas, $10,000 per acre. Not only that, the Parkway had to build a farmway bridge for Robbins.

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway Part 3 - June, 1924

Art, The gas station was located on the grounds of the Petit Trianon Inn. The Ronkonkoma Lodge never sold petroleum products.

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway Part 3 - June, 1924

I love the random little stories in this Kleiner’s Korner.  But getting perhaps a little off topic, what I’ve been thinking about lately is how did they assemble the property to build LIMP?  Even Robert Moses, who was able to utilize eminent domain, seems to have had problems putting roads where he wanted.  How would you get all these independent Long Island land owners to sell you relatively narrow strips of property?  Did they assure prospective sellers that their remaining property would greatly increase in value due to the parkway?  How would you deal with holdouts that demanded exorbitant prices?
Maybe I missed it, but I don’t think I’ve seen this addressed before…  Thanks!

From Kleiner's Korner: 100 Years Ago on the Motor Parkway Part 3 - June, 1924

I’m looking for any information on the motor Yatch Gertrude R owned by Gertrude Vanderbilt Whitney

From VanderbiltCupRaces.com Profile: Harry Payne Whitney

The Challenger III is at the top edge of the green in the lower right quadrant of the image. (See attached image with car circled) The event was “The Bridge VI”, an upscale, invitation only automobile show held on September 17, 2022 at The Bridge Golf Club in Bridgehampton. The golf club is on the site of the former Bridgehampton
Racing Circuit.

From Mystery Friday Foto #28 Solved; Did you find the 1962 Holman Moody Challenger III?

I grew up in Merrick, so we heard the Freeport races from our house every Tuesday, Friday, and Saturday. We attended some of the races as well. I saw stock cars, modifieds, and of course they always ended with a demolition derby.

From Mystery Friday Foto #27 Solved: Freeport Racetrack/Stadium

That is not Erwin Bergdoll; it is the eldest of the brothers, Louis J. Bergdoll, III.

From Mystery Foto #29 Solved: The 1908 Briarcliff Trophy Race

I believe thats Freeport Stadium. Opened in the early 1930’s, closed in the early 1980’s. The site is now occupied by industrial and retail buildings.

From Mystery Friday Foto #27 Solved: Freeport Racetrack/Stadium