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Jul 28 2015 Howard Kroplick 10:12 PM

From Alene Scoblete:
Howard this is amazing information! I am so pleased and impressed with the results! Thanks so much!

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 28 2015 Art Kleiner 5:48 PM

Great information on this one.  Ran out of time and energy tracking this one down.

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 28 2015 James 1:44 PM

Sorry, WEST! of that picture

From Then & Now: The Motor Parkway Office in Garden City

Jul 28 2015 S. Berliner, III 12:40 PM

Re-reading this, Walter P. Chrysler started on his own in 1921, buying controlling interest in Maxwell-Chalmers, making the prototype Chrysler in 1923, and absorbing Maxwell-Chalmers into Chrysler in 1924.  With revolutionary 4-wheel hydraulic brakes and a new nose, the projected 1924 Chalmers became the 1924 Chrysler.  The small 1926 6-cyl. Chrysler 52 was, in fact, the old Maxwell, which then became the first Plymouth Q in 1928.  And so it goes, with a $105 million fine, trade-up of millions of old Jeeps, and recall of 193,000 old Ram pickups!  Walter mist be spinning in his grave!  Oh, for ALCo quality and integrity.  Sam, III

From A 1913 Journey to Paris in an Alco Touring Car (Updated: January 19, 2015)

Jul 28 2015 Ted 2:44 AM

Here I am again, a bit of news, the 1960 Cobra is coming back,check it out,it’s not a Ford,it shocked me

From Sunday's Car Shows (July 26, 2015)

Jul 28 2015 Ted 1:53 AM

I decided to go back and check out the sites that Ariejan had,I could only get into one of them,the other 3 I couldn’t.I don’t know how to do it,don’t want to download too much,what I saw on the first one was good

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 28 2015 frank femenias 1:31 AM

Good stuff Howard. A powerhouse of info to take in and sort in the historical timeline. Outstanding work guys! I’m working on the photos actual location and boiled down to 6 possibilities

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 28 2015 Ted 1:25 AM

This was certainly a very detailed mystery? Thanks to Sam and Ariejan,did a great job, I enjoyed reading it all

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 27 2015 Greg O. 10:11 PM

I’m a little confused, maybe I’m missing something. One sticker on the back states; ‘Passengers 4’, but the other sticker only names the 3 men seen in the photo. Could the unseen/unknown photographer be the 4th passenger? And unless there was a self timer, how could Fullerton be IN the photo as well as being photographer?
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From Howard Kroplick

Greg, H.B. Fullerton was the photographer for this photo and also the fourth passenger.

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 27 2015 Howard Kroplick 8:03 PM

From Ariejan Bos:

Interesting mystery, especially as it appears to be a product from the Long Island Motor Vehicle Company. I vaguely could remember, that the car was recognized before and was mentioned in a LI-related website: http://sbiii.com/longis-3.html#liautomf
The photo appeared in the March issue of The Automobile Magazine Vol.3, 1901, describing a journey across Long Island with this car with a.o. driver H. B. Fullerton and passenger A.R. Pardington (involved in the LIMV Co.). This specific car was a surrey with the model name ‘Montauk’ (they used Long Island names for all their models). It was a motor car (not a steamer), but for specifications I must dig deeper. The Standard Catalog by Beverley Rae Kimes only mentions later products (from about 1902). The company was not a real car producer, but built on order. How many cars they built is unknown, but will not have exceeded more than a dozen or so, probably even less.
Article from The Automobile Magazine is above.

The Long Island Motor (Vehicle) Company remains rather obscure. The article in The Automobile Magazine, which describes the testing of a vehicle from this company, is in fact the first evidence of the company’s existence I could find (together with your find of course). Apparently this vehicle was entered for the Long Island Endurance Run on April 20, 1901, but it didn’t show up (no reason given) (The Horseless Age: http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951000852669t;view=1up;seq=89).
In The Horseless Age of October 30th,1901 p.647, the incorporation of the Long Island Motor Company (now without ‘Vehicle’) under New York laws was announced (directors Rockliffe, Pardington and Webb).
On March 26, 1902 it was announced that Pardington had almost finished his new belt-driven vehicle.
If this was the same vehicle as the one entered in the Long Island Endurance Run of April 26, I don’t know, but seems logical. The 24 hp car with driver Chas. Rockliffe received participant nr.64 and was by far far the heaviest vehicle in the contest with 3,500 pounds, but it could carry 6 persons (The Horseless Age: http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015039811511;view=1up;seq=521). If the car actually participated is not clear. In the report of the run (The Horseless Age: http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015039811511;view=1up;seq=531) it was written that no.64 was ‘failing to put in an appearance’. However, the car was seen during the run by several other participants: making repairs just beyond Manhasset (p.525), before reaching Bayside standing with engine or transmission trouble (p.531), between Bayside and Flushing (p.532, where the car was called patrol car) and between Lake Success and Queens, where the car was being towed (p.533). My guess is therefore that it made it to the start too late because of mechanical problems, started anyway and that these problems lasted during the run itself.
After this event I couldnt find any info on the company, which is more or less in align with the info in Beverly Rae Kimes and Henry Austin Clark. Jr.‘s Standard Catalog of American Cars (1805-1942).

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 27 2015 staghounds 10:41 AM

Rick’s nose was broken often. It got spread way out following the Eastern flight 21 crash in 1941.

From Another Vanderbilt Cup Race Mystery: Was Eddie Rickenbacker the Mechanician in this 1906 Photo?

Jul 27 2015 Greg O. 10:02 AM

I’ve run out of time and officially giving up!

I’ll just throw out a guess here and say that the man on the right looks like Louis Chevrolet in the passenger seat of a De Dion-Bouton in 1900/1901.

The man on the left? Another stab in the dark and I’ll guess maybe A.R. Pardington?

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 27 2015 james christman 9:54 AM

Howard, the 1938 time period, the picture supplied was great, just need the next shot to the east.

Thanks

James

From Then & Now: The Motor Parkway Office in Garden City

Jul 26 2015 Ted 10:51 PM

This has nothing to do with car shows, but it might be some kind of iimportance to some of you. It’s the 50th Anniversary of the Vietnam War. There’s a story about it in the Daily Press and if you would like to share your story, if you were involved in it contact military reporter All Rockett at 757-247-4942 or .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). I thought that I should pass this on. I’m a Vietnam Vet

From Sunday's Car Shows (July 26, 2015)

Jul 26 2015 Dusty Rhodes 2:24 PM

My grandfather helped design and work on cars in the Locomobile plant in
Bridgeport.  Just found (in my father’s collection of National Geographic) a full
back page ad in the May 1918 issue.

From Then & Now: The Locomobile Factory in Bridgeport

Jul 26 2015 Howard Kroplick 11:38 AM

From Gorden:
Love this thanks!

From Fortune Magazine, June 1932: A Portfolio of Aerial Photographs by Captain Alfred G. Buckham

Jul 26 2015 Leroy Douglas 4:42 AM

I wonder what type aircraft was used to take these remarkable photographs. I also wonder if Fairchild Aerial Cameras were used to take them. Perhaps the 1932 Fortune magazine might have some information about this.
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From Howard Kroplick:
Leroy, the article does not reference his plane or camera.
It looks like Buckham used his own 1915 aerial camera:
http://www.alfredbuckham.co.uk/index.php/central-and-south-america-tour/a-flying-photographer

I ordered the book “A Vision of Flight” to see more photos and information.

From Fortune Magazine, June 1932: A Portfolio of Aerial Photographs by Captain Alfred G. Buckham

Jul 26 2015 S. Berliner, III 12:54 AM

Gotcha, this time, Howard!  This has been on my LI page 3, http://sbiii.com/longis-3.html#liautomf, since at least 2003!  That’s Hal Fullerton at the right, our boy, Arthur Pardington at the left, and F. G. Webb in back, taken by Hal on Jan 6th,  1901.  The auto was the first built by the Long Island Motor Vehicle Company and this was it’s test drive.  Supporting documents from the back of the photo or a copy are on my web page.  Click on my image for a huge 8” x 10” copy.  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 25 2015 Ted 11:14 PM

All I can say about this one is the the car was built about 1830, I think it’s electric powered and I recognize one of the two people,a driver in the Vanderbilt Cup Races,but can’t name him. I tried anyway

From Mystery Foto#30 Solved:The First Road Test of Long Island Motor Vehicle Company's "Montauk" in 1901

Jul 25 2015 Lois Kroplick 7:34 PM

Great article!

From Newsday: 'Mrs. Chrysler's Chrysler,' 1937 unique car at LI Museum

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