Vanderbilt Cup Races

Date is before 1969, since I can still see the LIMP in the bottom corner.  The picture is the original United Nations building, where Israel was founded.  The picture is taken from (approximately) above the Vanderbilt Lakeville Mansion.  It looks to the south east.  With the Northern State Parkway at the bottom running left to right, and Marcus Ave running slightly higher in the picture.

From Mystery Foto #28 Solved: The Sperry Gyroscope Plant in Lake Success on September 27, 1952

I don’t believe a “mystery photo” had as many comments as this blog post. Thanks for initially questioning my assumed location of the 1973 photo, Dave Russo. If it wasn’t for Frank Drebins comment, I might be still scratching my head over this. I even sent Howard an email about all this. If your paying attention Frank, thank you.

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Thanks for sharing.

From Walter McCarthy Collection: A Tribute to Henry Austin Clark, Jr.

Yes. Kudos to Frank. That is definitely the location.

And once you cross the wantagh parkway there are original wood posts that still stand. . Pictures to come as part of Vanderbilt day II pics sent to Howard!

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Congratulations to Ariejan Bos, the undisputed king of mystery photo identification, for his outstanding research effort.

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Drivers and Mechanicians of the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race & Sweepstakes

You may be correct, Frank Drebin. The LIMP bridged over Westbury Rd. Then the road seen ahead would be Salisbury Park Dr ( Gradually uprising eastward over Wantagh St Pkwy ). You can’t see Westbury Rd because of the photo angle. And the tower line is still on the S/S of the ROW. In this area, there’s underground electric transmission basically on the N/S of the ROW. This transmission replaced the wood poles w/3 cross arms each in the past. And what I see in the distance to the right is the R/O the Newbridge Rd substation. It appears that we are looking at the remains of the LIMP just W/O Westbury Rd, and this would’ve been demolished with the widening of the intersection there, or because of the apartment/condo complex where the 2 roads meet.

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

From Ariejan Bos:

Photo A: Joe Dawson (#25 Marmon)
Photo B: Unknown person in Columbia sweater and in Columbia car #12 (Not Harold Stone!)
Photo C: Billy Pearce (Falcar #41)
Photo D: Joe Nelson (Oldsmobile #5)
Photo E: Bert Dingley and C.F. Oswood (Pope-Hartford #22)
Photo F: Unknown Mercer #42 or #47 driver (cf. M)
Photo G: Joe Matson (Corbin #14)
Photo H: Louis Disbrow (National #31)
Photo I: Frank O’Brien (Falcar #41 mechanician of Billy Pearce)
Photo J: Harry Stillman (Oldsmobile #20)
Photo K: Frank Gelnaw (Falcar #46)
Photo L: Fred Heinemann and H.B. Patty (Marmon #45)
Photo M: Unknown Mercer #42 or #47 driver (same person as F)

Regards,
Ariejan

From Mystery Foto #27 Solved: Drivers and Mechanicians of the 1910 Vanderbilt Cup Race & Sweepstakes

The bottom photo from the article cover page looks like where Salisbury Park Drive and Old Westbury Road split. It looks like the Suburban Park Jewish Center on the right.

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

What a great video. It’s a toss up between your’s and his. I would have to see it live to decide,seeing and hearing it in action. Have a Happy & Safe 4th of July to all of you.

From Henry Austin Clark Jr. and his 1911 Mercer 35R Raceabout

I enjoyed that ...

From Henry Austin Clark Jr. and his 1911 Mercer 35R Raceabout

After meeting Hal and hearing him speak in Southampton and seeing this film, I think H. Austin Clark Jr.‘s legacy is in good hands.

From Henry Austin Clark Jr. and his 1911 Mercer 35R Raceabout

Wonderful photographs, Gregg Merksamer is a great guy and author of a book on the history of the NY Automobile show.

From The Artwork of Gregg Merksamer:Chrysler's Chrysler & Mustang III at the Greenwich Concours 2012-2016

Yes Dave, especially when you stand under the 1910 date right?

From Sam & Dave’s “Excellent Motor Parkway Adventure” XI: Old Bethpage Bridge

Thanks so much ,first visit to track was in 1957, then in 1991 I got to take my 1987 FX16 GTS around the track ,the track was rented for a day and various cars showed up,first time for me on the track with my Toyota was a thrill I’ll never forget especially since I made an 8mm video from a camera mounted where the passenger seat normally goes. You films reminded me to watch mine ,no racing just the thrill of driving that track, WOW!
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From Howard Kroplick:

Thomas, can you forward a copy to share on VanderbiltCupRaces.com ?

From Film "1957 Bridgehampton Race Circuit Inauguration"

It’s me again, Dave. I was just viewing a 1953 aerial of this area. Universe Dr is well established running west of Wantagh Ave. It’s blurry, but I think there’s a abutment remnant at the intersection of Wantagh Ave; W/S ( it doesn’t appear to block traffic ). Then east of Wantagh Ave, you can see the LIMP roadbed. So, no surprise; a good part of Universe Dr was built over the LIMP roadbed. And just south of here is former Central ROW/ presently PSEG LI ROW. So I’m not quite sure what road is seen “ahead”, but pretty sure from my “photographic memory”; that the Levittown substation( PSEG LI facility ) is in the distance to the right. This substation is closer to Hicksville Rd ( Rte 107 ).

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

That’s the way to go Howard,just keep collecting those awards,can’t stop wining,you can’t loose.I don’t think there’s a car out there that can beat you in your class,is there?maybe there was,can’t remember,you win so much,coming in second or third,with high honors,all the time.

From The Artwork of Gregg Merksamer:Chrysler's Chrysler & Mustang III at the Greenwich Concours 2012-2016

Ted, near Wantagh av/deadmans curve could quite possibly be

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Almost missed this one, recovering from major surgery, but couldn’t resist coming back and taking a peek. Can’t investigate this one but viewing from a phone, if that’s the newbrIdge hotel, there should be a tunnel portal under the bridge, and railroad tracks where the gent in the foreground is standing. I don’t see any on this little screen. On lower photo, my first hunch was Brian’s suggestion but can’t dig deeper. Brian worked the lines and Tim worked the precinct. These would be two excellent sources to start from

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Hi Dave. That photo just below the painting, I guess you can see the remains of the LIMP; and the uprise of the bridge abutment at the W/S of Wantagh Ave. I’m think the road ahead may be the entrance road into the precinct. If the photo was taken a little more to the north, you would probably see Universe Dr. The LIMP ROW and Universe Dr are VERY parallel with each other in this location. Being that the Newsday article is 1973, maybe this photo is; too?

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16

Great article. Really well written, thorough and concise. Well done Colleen.

Brian—so you are saying this picture is just WEST of Wantagh Ave? That would be Universe Drive directly ahead?

From The Helck Family Memoirs: 1973 Newsday "What Ever Became of the Vanderbilt Parkway?" Updated 7/14/16