Vanderbilt Cup Races

Brian, you’re right on! Looking deeper at the Construction Details diagram above (the first schematic), the white railing in the photo is the temporary wooden staircase that was built at midpoint during construction. Looking further at the schematic, inside the tunnel there is a sliding door at midpoint leading to this staircase up to Union Tpke, which now raises another question. Is there a second metal grating on Union Tpke’s north sidewalk leading to this staircase? And what condition is the wood after 84 years in the underground closet? Need to pay a visit there soon.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

I know ZIP about burrowing tunnels, especially one of this length. That fenced off area you point out, Frank; made me curious too. It would seem that this was a midpoint area in building of the tunnel. I’m thinking this because Union Tpke eventually was expanded over the original section of LIMP, and the end result aerial shows tunnel access S/O Union Tpke, and N/O the new LIMP section.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

Hi Frank. Thought I’d mention the older aerial with the LIMP? looks to be about where the Bloomingdale Rd bridge was. They must of demolished that bridge promptly at that time.

Needless to mention everyone, but I can’t help but say the Westbury Ave bridge is seen as well. Unless you really want to, Frank; don’t feel the need to revise your findings just because of the bridges I mentioned.

From Mystery Foto #41 Solved: An Aerial of East Meadow and Levittown Circa 1949

Taking another look at the photo with both LIMP roadways, the white railings are set in Union Tpke’s ROW yet to come. Underpass entrance here is incorrect. The railings appear to be at the underpass’ midpoint, where there should be street above. Perhaps a temporary underpass entrance for construction purposes.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

Whoo, these new aerial pix are hard to follow foe us non-L’townwers!  Hurrah for the LIACC!  Interesting conjunction - snooty LIACC and viciously-prejudiced Levitt.  Richard, the hangar was NOT bulldozed; one segment was dismantled (as Steve notes) and re-erected south of the intersection of Schneider Lane and Revere and Lexington Avenues, backing on the LIRR’s Central Branch, in downtown Bethpage.  It still stands and is currently marked “Best Market HQ” on Google Maps.  It’s fully documented on my site but I’ll be hang(ar)ed if I can find where!  Sam, III

From Mystery Foto #41 Solved: An Aerial of East Meadow and Levittown Circa 1949

Good grief, Charlie Brown (or George Zink)!  Your “lamp post” is the VENTILATOR!  See the drawing above.  What a find!  This whole post is quite a revelation; Mother Nature hasn’t gotten ahead of us here (yet).  If crawling into the Wheeler Farmway Bridge isn’t bad enough, <http://sbiii.com/limp-qn3.html#wheeler>, now we’ve got this one to find a way into - go, Frank!  As to my pages, Brian, thanks but I missed this gem; never even knew of it.  Sam, III

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

Awesome post! I’ve passed this but just assumed it was Hospital related - some sort of former walkway. Love this stuff. Will have to check it out.

Did you go down the steps and take pics inside? What’s in there????

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

I guess you’re right about that Frank. A lot of findings and still more,it never ends does it? Keep on looking guys.Doing great so far,as usual.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

A+ on your coverage of this tunnel, Mr. Zink. Your photos exhibit that this tunnel was built to last. And Howard’s aerial clearly shows the N and S entrances. My mom was an aide with the Central Islip Psychiatric Center until it closed. She then worked for Creedmoor for a few years until retirement. I’ll have to ask her what she may know about this underpass. I wouldn’t venture in there without a buddy or protection.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

Great job George, and James you’re right about conditions that would’ve existed. Now, how to enter the tunnel. I have a flashlight!

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

Howard, about to send a photo of the ped underpass but George already nailed it. Great observation George! See above photo.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

The photographer was over East Meadow looking east showing Levittown. The roads that were used for the Vanderbilt Cup races are: Hempstead Turnpike (1904), and some remnants of the LIMP (1908, 1909, & 1910). Since the building of the homes for Levittown has progressed significantly, and I think I can see the structures at Aviation Country Club are still intact (portions of which were moved in 1950), I’m going to guess 1950 as the year of the photo. As to other large buildings, not too sure, but I believe that’s Bethpage Park & golf course in the upper left corner.

From Mystery Foto #41 Solved: An Aerial of East Meadow and Levittown Circa 1949

Brian,
The bridge on the Creedmoor property was a highway bridge, not a pedestrian or a farmway bridge
Al.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

Love that Riviera!

From Highlights from the 10th Annual Hemmings Motor News Concours D'Elegance

Hard to tell for sure but the racers SEEM to have longer wheelbases than Erik’s car.  Sam, III

From Did This Mitchell Racer Participate in the 1908 Nassau Sweepstakes?

George Zink….I’m don’t have an actual memory of the tunnel you know of, but I viewed photos of this location in the past on someone’s website. Sam Berliners websites came to mind, and I’ve been poking around; but haven’t came across the photos yet. The photos showed exactly what you described.  BDM

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

From John F,:
Congratulations on this for all your excellent work, Howard.

From The Roslyn Times: Local historian wins award

From Suzette G.:
Great job and a well deserved honor, especially for you and all your good work, and to Supervisor Bosworth and all the members town board for their unwavering support.

From The Roslyn Times: Local historian wins award

So the proposed underpass would’ve been between Winchester Blvd and the Creedmore pedestrian overpass? I guess the N/S of the proposed underpass would’ve led one onto the Creedmore property, too?
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From Howard Kroplick

That is correct. Al Velocci believes the Creedmoor Bridge was the original highway bridge built in 1912.

From The Union Turnpike/Long Island Motor Parkway Pedestrian Underpass

Aerial of Levittown looking southeast about 1948.
The North Wantagh section and the “G” section off Newbridge Rd. not yet built.
LIMP visible at lower right crossing the Wantagh Pkwy. and Rte. 106 (Newbridge)
curving left then east along Orchid Road and continuing through Bethpage.
Visible at upper left is Grumman Plant 2 and the Grumman runways.

From Mystery Foto #41 Solved: An Aerial of East Meadow and Levittown Circa 1949